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Abscesses, antisepsis, rubbing alcohol

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LoneTree

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This is a simple but effective method I use to decrease the chances of an abscess:

Find an empty hair spray bottle. Wash it. Dry it.
Fill it with 70% (rubbing) alcohol. It is the most effective concentration of alcohol for antisepsis.
I lightly spray the vials of AAS with it. I also spray my fingers.
I generously spray the area on my ass that I am going to inject. More effective, more convenient (and cheaper) than alcohol swab.

The whole idea is to decrease the bacterial count as much as possible. Even if a few bacteria get into your injection, they are not likely to cause infection if the numbers are low.

It is cheap, convenient and effective.
 
The "anti-bacterial" action of alcohol is mechanical (meaning it breaks the bonds that help bacteria cling to a surface and you then wipe them away). Just spraying something with alcohol is generaly no more effective than spraying with distilled water.
 
mikefear said:
or wash your hands, use a cotton ball and a bottle of rubbing alcohol.

works for me
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I am supposed to know antisepsis inside out.
I also wash my hands. Alcohol is more effective than washing alone.
Using spray is better than cotton swab. Cotton swab would carry some bacteria. Your fingers may also come in contact with your skin when you use swab.
Spray is direct contact of alcohol with your skin (or vial) with no other contamination - that is the greatest advantage.
I also noticed that sometimes needs inadvertently touches the vial - may cause contamination. That's why I spray vials.

As you can't do bacterial count with naked eye, you really can't tell whether it is really 'working for you' ot not.
Abscesses are not common with most methods. The idea is to make them even more rare.
 
medical said:
The "anti-bacterial" action of alcohol is mechanical (meaning it breaks the bonds that help bacteria cling to a surface and you then wipe them away). Just spraying something with alcohol is generaly no more effective than spraying with distilled water.
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That is not correct. Please check your facts before you give advise.
Alcohol is a chemical disinfectant that is effective against bacteria, fungi and viruses.
It is used in ORs to disinfect some of the instruments that are damaged by autoclave and iodine.
It is more effective than iodine for some of the bacteria on the skin (eg staph epi).
 
KD1 said:
Friction removes the bulk of the germs, so rubbing with the swab should be better.
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This is the procedure to 'prep' a body part for surgery:
Wash it with a disinfectant detergent.
Paint it with iodine.
Clean iodine with alcohol. Alcohol also kills some bacteria that iodine doesn't kill.
 
LoneTree said:
That is not correct. Please check your facts before you give advise.
Alcohol is a chemical disinfectant that is effective against bacteria, fungi and viruses.
It is used in ORs to disinfect some of the instruments that are damaged by autoclave and iodine.
It is more effective than iodine for some of the bacteria on the skin (eg staph epi).
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shit stirring:

And why are we supposed to take your "word" as fact and not ask questions as to the accuracy of what you devise as "truth?"
 
It has been proven over and over again in studies that it is the rubbing back and forth action combined with the solution that removes the most bacteria. Personally, I would not recommend a spray. Unless you have multiple studies showing it's effectiveness.
 
sgtslaughter said:
shit stirring:

And why are we supposed to take your "word" as fact and not ask questions as to the accuracy of what you devise as "truth?"
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Don't take my word. Just pick any good book of Microbiology. I woud recommend Jawetz Medical Microbiology.
You may not get as good information, but you can also do a google search.
I never thought I would get so much argument on this issue.
 
I use alcohol pads and simply wipe the top of the vial. Then get a new one and wipe the area of the body I am hitting. No need to change what medical professionals around the globe do - if it ain't broken don't try to fix it!
 
i scrub area in shower with lava soap prior so injection for a good min or so, hop out pat dry with clean towel, and then alcohol swab it, never a prob
 
dsh89 said:
It has been proven over and over again in studies that it is the rubbing back and forth action combined with the solution that removes the most bacteria. Personally, I would not recommend a spray. Unless you have multiple studies showing it's effectiveness.
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You'd get the same effect without rubbing. No bacteria will live in a 90%+ alcohol solution but it's much more intuitive to rub the wet area then just leaving it there.
 
nisser512 said:
You'd get the same effect without rubbing. No bacteria will live in a 90%+ alcohol solution but it's much more intuitive to rub the wet area then just leaving it there.
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Wrong............
 
LoneTree said:
That is not correct. Please check your facts before you give advise.
Alcohol is a chemical disinfectant that is effective against bacteria, fungi and viruses.
It is used in ORs to disinfect some of the instruments that are damaged by autoclave and iodine.
It is more effective than iodine for some of the bacteria on the skin (eg staph epi).
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You are incorrect, sir.
 
dsh89 said:
It has been proven over and over again in studies that it is the rubbing back and forth action combined with the solution that removes the most bacteria. Personally, I would not recommend a spray. Unless you have multiple studies showing it's effectiveness.
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Not wiping back and forth....wiping in one direction is most effective.
 
nisser512 said:
Yeah...because a dangerous respiratory pathogen like P. aeruginosa on your cotton swab is THE MAJOR concern when injecting :rolleyes:

You linked a scenario that doesn't even apply. Alcohol is in most cases enough to kill the relevant suspects.
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Let me quote you here
"No bacteria will live in a 90%+ alcohol solution "
 
medical said:
Let me quote you here
"No bacteria will live in a 90%+ alcohol solution "
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You can quote me all you want but I know what I'm talking about. The shit you linked to gives absolutely no details as to the actual problem. What if I told you those alcohol pads had very little alcohol and thus were not able to sterilize the pads? Does the news post state that the pads are drenched in alcohol? No it does not. Furthermore, would a company be selling products marketed as being sterile with alcohol if the alcohol didn't actually work?
 
Damn, and all this time I've been prepping the injection site with butter to make the pin go in easier..
 
LoneTree, if just the use of alcohol alone is so effective why would you reccomend using just 70%? I've got some 97% here, seems if this is the only thing doing the job why not use the most potent stuff out there?
 
missionpossible said:
LoneTree, if just the use of alcohol alone is so effective why would you reccomend using just 70%? I've got some 97% here, seems if this is the only thing doing the job why not use the most potent stuff out there?
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He is correct about 70% being better than the stronger solutions....it is because it doesn't evaporate as fast.
 
justinjones1963 said:
I use alcohol pads and simply wipe the top of the vial. Then get a new one and wipe the area of the body I am hitting. No need to change what medical professionals around the globe do - if it ain't broken don't try to fix it!
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Best advice on this thread.
 
Heres a crazy idea! how about scrubbing your ass with antibacterial solutions that are so common these days??
 
Mike- you got my respect when you didn't get pissed that time I asked if you tanned the rest of your face to keep it as brown as your nose. When you dish it, you gotta take it. But you never did answer. jk
 
medical said:
He is correct about 70% being better than the stronger solutions....it is because it doesn't evaporate as fast.
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Cool, good to know. I would of thought the stronger the better, but all the wipes Ive seen are 70%.
 
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