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Abcess and infections

M.O.D

M.O.D

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i know this wont sit well with many of you but go to the search button and type in abcess then infections...read all the posts and see what you come up with.....

ip
tok
brovel
vet shit
and any of the other kitchen sink labs


these are the names you will see,,,,i know the shit is easy to get and its cheap...but did ya ever think about why so many guys are getting infections? and how come its never from the top quality human grade stuff that comes from the pharmacy?....cuz its FUCKING dirty shit thats why....but hey its your body so quit starting threads bitching about infections....i bet most of you take better care of your cars than your own bodies.....,,
 
I don't need to use the search button I see those posts all the time. Funny I've never seen Organon and infection in the same post.
 
I've gotten one abcess. It was from using too short of a needle, but I did use TT cyp. The pain alone will prevent me from using most vet products in the future.
 
do you know how easy it is for bacteria to get in a amp or bottle?

do you think ip, tok really have high tech sterile labs?

do you think these vet labs are really concerned about whats going into a horses ass?


you guys are playing russian roulette and getting an abcess or an infection are the least of your worries.....
 


you guys are playing russian roulette and getting an abcess or an infection are the least of your worries..... [/B]
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dont mean to be a dick but your being pretty negative!! do you not use???:confused: therefore you too play the game so what your problem?:fro:
 
i have used for a bit over 20 years now and only got one infection and that was cuz i didnt go deep enough in the quad....so after thousands of shots i do think i know what i'm talking about....like i said do a search with infections or abcess and see what kind of gear these guys are using getting these problems....i doubt very much you will see any names that come from the pharmacy....
 
M.O.D said:
i know this wont sit well with many of you but go to the search button and type in abcess then infections...read all the posts and see what you come up with.....

ip
tok
brovel
vet shit
and any of the other kitchen sink labs


these are the names you will see,,,,i know the shit is easy to get and its cheap...but did ya ever think about why so many guys are getting infections? and how come its never from the top quality human grade stuff that comes from the pharmacy?....cuz its FUCKING dirty shit thats why....but hey its your body so quit starting threads bitching about infections....i bet most of you take better care of your cars than your own bodies.....,,

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I dont know of many people who have gotten infections from IP's stuff.Personally I dont like the man or his practices but the fact is his stuff isnt nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Hell when is the last time someone has gotten an infection from homemade fina? Surely this must repulse you b/c its not even made somewhere remotely like a legitimate laboratory-its in people's kitchens! I am curious to see what your take is on that.
If vet steroids are so dirty why haven't people like me who used things like Brovel (in the mid 90's) when that was all that was around and have never gotten an infection. Maybe these people have shitty immune systems but I cant see what the problem is.
I dont know what your level of income is but the products that you use and reccomend (like Zambon winny which I admit is excellent) is GROSSLY overpriced. I cant justify money that is going to be there for me to retire going towards astronomically priced cycles.
 
M.O.D said:
i have used for a bit over 20 years now and only got one infection and that was cuz i didnt go deep enough in the quad....so after thousands of shots i do think i know what i'm talking about....like i said do a search with infections or abcess and see what kind of gear these guys are using getting these problems....i doubt very much you will see any names that come from the pharmacy....
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I've read this before and don't understand how this happens. By not injecting far enough in you get an infection? I always thought infections came from a bacterium that was foreign to the body.
 
M.O.D said:
do you know how easy it is for bacteria to get in a amp or bottle?

do you think ip, tok really have high tech sterile labs?

do you think these vet labs are really concerned about whats going into a horses ass?
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If ttokkyo were as dirty as your tone implies then it would be like the Bubonic Plague. Also you know as well as anyone else that these vet companies are marketiing and manufacturing towards the HUMAN consumer.
 
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yes i admit i can afford to pay the price for top quality gear...shit i'm on GH 10 months out of the year...but even if i was on a tight budget i would save up until i had enough to pay for the good shit...and as for you using vet gear since the 90's and no infections....like i stated above..the abcesses and infections are the least of your worries....you have NO idea what is in these drugs or what damage they may be causing in your body that will surface later on in life...so why risk it?...cuz of the low cost?....like the saying goes you get what you pay for....fuck man its your body you are messing around with and being ill is not fun....a friend of mine abused so much shit and is now on a kidney machine and looking for an o negative doner...he admitted to me he used more vet drugs than any other and did so for years straight.
 
genarr3 said:

I've read this before and don't understand how this happens. By not injecting far enough in you get an infection? I always thought infections came from a bacterium that was foreign to the body.
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in my case i didnt go deep enough and went sub q so my doc thinks that may have caused it to get infected...
 
Your_Moms_Kneepads said:
If ttokkyo were as dirty as your tone implies then it would be like the Bubonic Plague. Also you know as well as anyone else that these vet companies are marketiing and manufacturing towards the HUMAN consumer.
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i'm not trying to be a dick here or just bash for no reason but just do a test...hit the search button and read what these guys are using that are getting infected....and these are just the ones who are admitting it...i wonder how many out there are getting fucked up but not posting about it.
 
genarr3 said:

I've read this before and don't understand how this happens. By not injecting far enough in you get an infection? I always thought infections came from a bacterium that was foreign to the body.
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It's called a sterile abcess. The oil basically sits on top of the muscle (or fat :() and underneath the skin.
 
M.O.D said:
i know this wont sit well with many of you but go to the search button and type in abcess then infections...read all the posts and see what you come up with.....

ip
tok
brovel
vet shit
and any of the other kitchen sink labs


these are the names you will see,,,,i know the shit is easy to get and its cheap...but did ya ever think about why so many guys are getting infections? and how come its never from the top quality human grade stuff that comes from the pharmacy?....cuz its FUCKING dirty shit thats why....but hey its your body so quit starting threads bitching about infections....i bet most of you take better care of your cars than your own bodies.....,,
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EXCELLENT POINT MOD.. I couldn't have said it better. That should put to rest ANY claims about ip/etc. liquids being "quality" .. the search is PROOF ..

mb
 
QUESTION !

spentagn said:


It's called a sterile abcess. The oil basically sits on top of the muscle (or fat :() and underneath the skin.
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just curious ... how long does it take to notice a abcess and what are the symptoms ??

mb
 
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musclebones said:



EXCELLENT POINT MOD.. I couldn't have said it better. That should put to rest ANY claims about ip/etc. liquids being "quality" .. the search is PROOF ..

mb
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There are plenty of variables that go into determining the source of an infection/abcess. I believe most times it is due to unsanitary practices, not necessarily the gear. That being said, I have not used, nor will I use, Chinese injectibles.
 
left bicep

This pic isn't very good, my arm was a lot redder than it appears. No cracks about the puny size, either, tough guys.
 
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a shit load of pain at the site of injection followed by swelling....then the site will feel warm to the touch...and if not treated by antibiotics you risk the chance of it spreading which could also lead to the loss of a limb if not treated....

but like i said the abcesses and infections are minor..just asked my friend waiting for a new kidney if he makes it that long....
 
READ THIS M.O.D.

M.O.D said:

do you think these vet labs are really concerned about whats going into a horses ass?
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Bro I understand your concerns but you are somewhat incorrect and though you have great experience with juice you can always learn.

Let me explain you something, a horse, is no different from a human. You inject it with some filthy bacteria and IT WILL get an infection. Some of these horses are worth millions of Dollars. Do you know "POINTGIVEN"? He is a kick ass horse who runs the Kentucky derbi and is worth millions of $$$. Guess what? It uses EQ..From which lab? Take a guess my friend.

BTW some people have gotten infections from Organon and schering before. Just because they dont appear on these boards dosent mean it dosent happen buddy. There are 1000's of BB out there who dont post their problems on the Net so dont generalize. Some of these guys have some laughlable injection procedures hence the infection.

Vet stuff is as good as human stuff. ANY LIVING ORGANISM REQUIRES THE SAME PURITY OR STERELITY WHEN INJECTED. Word. Go ask a Biologist or vet if you dont believe me. take care
 
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ironbarbarian said:


Bro I understand your concerns but you are somewhat incorrect and though you have great experience with juice you can always learn.

Let me explain you something, a horse, is no different from a human. You inject it with some filthy bacteria and IT WILL get an infection. Some of these horses are worth millions of Dollars. Do you know "POINTGIVEN"? He is a kick ass horse who runs the Kentucky derbi and is worth millions of $$$. Guess what? It uses EQ..From which lab? Take a guess my friend.

BTW some people have gotten infections from Organon and schering before. Just because they dont appear on these boards dosent mean it dosent happen buddy. There are 1000's of BB out there who dont post their problems on the Net so dont generalize. Some of these guys have some laughlable injection procedures hence the infection.

Vet stuff is as good as human stuff. ANY LIVING ORGANISM REQUIRES THE SAME PURITY OR STERELITY WHEN INJECTED. Word. Go ask a Biologist or vet if you dont believe me. take care
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i dont think you can really compare to who a horse or dog would react to a vet drug vs. a human....dogs eat their own shit and dont get sick....:D
 
M.O.D said:


i dont think you can really compare to who a horse or dog would react to a vet drug vs. a human....dogs eat their own shit and dont get sick....:D
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Well, some people drink their own urine and dont get sick. :p I've seen in a variety if documentaries.
 
LOL...yeah, I'm glad M.O.D. put IP on the list - back in the day I
was once an IP fan too, but the hair in my unopened vile changed my mind real quick.
 
Good post M.O.D. Most of us would never dream of eating animal food, so why would some of us take Animal pharmaceuticals? Hope you are recovering from your accident. Just take things slowly and hopefully you will be back in the gym pumping iron.
 
Damian Borleone said:


Both of these URLs have nothing to do with "dirty" Ttokkyo gear or infections caused by supposed "dirty" Ttokkyo gear... Re-read them.
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this is a quote from the last link.."This is my first cycle. I am doing 1/4 cc Tokkyyo EQ with a 25g 5/8 needle twice a week in the delts. I'm just starting week 4 and I have gotten what looks like red blisters that are warm to the touch on my last two injections."


i just quickly grabbed a few but trust me if you take the time and go through the list you will see my point....but wtf dont listen to me i'm just voicing my opinion
 
And the rest of his post goes something like this: "I am not super lean around my arms, is it possible I'm going sub-q?"

Reply (by Suzr, who happens to be a nurse): "I don't know about injectin AS. (I'm fairly new to this site and taking in info) but I am a nurse and very experienced with needles and injections. A 5/8 " needle is generally used for subcutaneous injections. It sounds like you are giving yourself sq injections. This could end up giving you an abcess at the injection site, or result in nonabsorption if what you were injecting was supposed to be IM. The correct needle size is important when injecting IM. In the Delt a needle should be a mimimun of 1", and in the glut 1.5". Because I don't know the specifics about injectiong AS, I wouldn't be able to advise you on the best site for the injections".
 
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