A Very Interesting Customs Question.. Plz Read

[Gman]

I've read lots and lots on this board about customs catching things at the US border.. but when talking with my friend the other day we wondered..

What do you think a US customs agent would define as a large order of steroids - One that would push them to attempt a controlled delivery and not the usual unpleasant letter..

I would imagine the confiscation of a 'personal use' amount of steroids would lead to the letter, not a controlled delivery.. BUT I also understand that isn't always true.. and to think about it noone has ever defined what a personal use amount is, have they?

So opinions guys and real life experiences guys.. how many vials, pills, etc produce a letter or delivery?

Gman

 

[XBiker]

I've read lots and lots on this board about customs catching things at the US border.. but when talking with my friend the other day we wondered..

What do you think a US customs agent would define as a large order of steroids - One that would push them to attempt a controlled delivery and not the usual unpleasant letter..

I would imagine the confiscation of a 'personal use' amount of steroids would lead to the letter, not a controlled delivery.. BUT I also understand that isn't always true.. and to think about it noone has ever defined what a personal use amount is, have they?

So opinions guys and real life experiences guys.. how many vials, pills, etc produce a letter or delivery?

Gman

Many times, customs will contact the local, county, or state law enforcement agency that presides over the location in which the gear is being delivered. They will leave it to the local boys, if they care to set up the controlled delivery and go after the gearheads.

Customs has a tough job, look at all the ports, mail, borders, etc that they oversee... That is why many times they will let things slide with a simple seizure and letter. It takes time, money, and resources to prosecute someone in the judicial system.

 

[manny78]

Depends. I would say if you have enough for about 4-5 people then yes it could be considered for a controled delivery. Look here in Canada cops wont arrest you if you have under 5 grams of weed, between 5 and 30 g its a fine. Over 30 g then you're considered as a drug dealer, so it should give you an idea. Having 100 sust amps and 20 TT Deca would be suspicious.

 

[beefybull]

Let's round up about 100 220+ lb gearheads and storm a Customs warehouse....hahaha j/k

 

[stickboy]

my buddy got popped at the border bringing back an order for about 3-4 people, and they were going to stick it to him. they were talking about a fine of about $30,000!! what you have to keep in mind is that it is classified in the same catagory as methamphetamine, so by weight, even a bottle of equipose is a gram. check out rick collins steroid law sight. oh yeah, by the way, they let my buddy off, because he is in a wheelchair and convinced them it was personal use. now he only has to pay 5 grand!

 

[brainiac]

my buddy got popped at the border bringing back an order for about 3-4 people, and they were going to stick it to him. they were talking about a fine of about $30,000!! what you have to keep in mind is that it is classified in the same catagory as methamphetamine, so by weight, even a bottle of equipose is a gram. check out rick collins steroid law sight. oh yeah, by the way, they let my buddy off, because he is in a wheelchair and convinced them it was personal use. now he only has to pay 5 grand!

That scares me....what border and how did they find it-was he walking or driving?

 

[Corleone]

They're looking more for the 10,000 dollar orders. I've had a few orders in the 6-8 hundred dollar range seized, and nothing but a letter, and I still continue to recieve foreign goods.

 

[megabump]

my buddy got popped at the border bringing back an order for about 3-4 people, and they were going to stick it to him. they were talking about a fine of about $30,000!! what you have to keep in mind is that it is classified in the same catagory as methamphetamine, so by weight, even a bottle of equipose is a gram. check out rick collins steroid law sight. oh yeah, by the way, they let my buddy off, because he is in a wheelchair and convinced them it was personal use. now he only has to pay 5 grand!

Theres a big difference though in getting caught with it on you coming over the border and having it caught at customs through the mail.

If they find it on you it wont cost them another $1 to get enough evidence to charge you, they already have it, so 9 times out of 10 youre gonna get charged.

If they find it in the mail its gonna cost some $ to get enough evidence to charge someone, and even then its no guarantee that theyll ever be able to charge anyone with anything. It probably all boils down to what your local law enforcement has on their desk the day they get the call from customs. You have a lot greater chance of gettin a follow up if the address is El Paso, IL then you do if its Chicago, IL.

 

[Corleone]

my buddy got popped at the border bringing back an order for about 3-4 people, and they were going to stick it to him. they were talking about a fine of about $30,000!! what you have to keep in mind is that it is classified in the same catagory as methamphetamine, so by weight, even a bottle of equipose is a gram. check out rick collins steroid law sight. oh yeah, by the way, they let my buddy off, because he is in a wheelchair and convinced them it was personal use. now he only has to pay 5 grand!

I got popped going across the border with about $1000 bucks worth of various goods, enough for a few people.
Here's what you do:
When they pull you aside and ask you if you brought anything back, say "No". They'll ask you a few times and keep telling them no. Then they'll take you into the back room to search you. Right when you're entering the room, declare what you have. Hold off until the last possible second because they may let you off. This is what I did, and since I declared, they took the souvineers and let me go scotch free, no fine.

 

[megabump]

They're looking more for the 10,000 dollar orders. I've had a few orders in the 6-8 hundred dollar range seized, and nothing but a letter, and I still continue to recieve foreign goods.

Keep in mind that they use the highest possible resale value when calculating that $10,000. While a case (144 bottles) of Ketamine might only cost you $3000 in Mexico... it well exceeds that 10k limit in the eyes of the law. I know Ketamine isnt a steroid but you get the idea.

 

[XXXL]

funny that someone with a name like "megabump" would use k as an example. . . hee hee

 

[stickboy]

brainiac-he was driving back with his girlfriend in the car, it was close to the 4th of july and they were initially looking for fireworks.

 

[fhg43]

Well what about this:
If you cross a land border you can carry across 50 doses of an FDA approved prescription drug for your personal use. You must declare and you DON'T need a prescription. However you would be subject to whatever laws your state or local authoritys have concern possessing script meds w/o a script.

Here's the link:

http://www.customs.gov/travel/med.htm

check out this one too:

http://www.fda.gov/ora/import/purchasing_medications.htm

Interesting.

FHG

 

[SwitchedOn]

Um gear is schedule 3, meth is schedule 1 I believe or at the very least 2. They are definitely not in the same class.

 

[genarr3]

Theres a big difference though in getting caught with it on you coming over the border and having it caught at customs through the mail.

If they find it on you it wont cost them another $1 to get enough evidence to charge you, they already have it, so 9 times out of 10 youre gonna get charged.

If they find it in the mail its gonna cost some $ to get enough evidence to charge someone, and even then its no guarantee that theyll ever be able to charge anyone with anything. It probably all boils down to what your local law enforcement has on their desk the day they get the call from customs. You have a lot greater chance of gettin a follow up if the address is El Paso, IL then you do if its Chicago, IL.

Exactly.

 

[Gman]

So lets get back to the mail thing.. rather than the border.. anyone have anything to add to the conversation??

Gman

 

[genarr3]

So lets get back to the mail thing.. rather than the border.. anyone have anything to add to the conversation??

Gman

I don't think you could put a number on that. It would depend on local law enforcement. I imagine there are some slow departments with nothing to do would work with just about anything.

 

[joeyz123]

Like ZYG stated in a post similar to this, there should be NO question in the mind of the customs agent or whoever that what you have is for personal use. I dont know if they have a specific number set. Put yourself in their place and judge the amount you have. You have to think of getting it in the mail this way; if you are guilty of having it mailed to you then the people that recieved Anthrax in the mail are as guilty as gearheads are..........with the exception of the people that actually are dumb enough to sign for their gear.

 

[megabump]

Um gear is schedule 3, meth is schedule 1 I believe or at the very least 2. They are definitely not in the same class.

Good point... Meth is one of the last things you want to get caught with (right up there with a transvestite hooker.)

There is no way its in the same class as steroids, steroids have a legitimate medical use.

 

[megabump]

You have to think of getting it in the mail this way; if you are guilty of having it mailed to you then the people that recieved Anthrax in the mail are as guilty as gearheads are..........with the exception of the people that actually are dumb enough to sign for their gear.

Just because you sign for a package doesnt mean you know whats in it. Once you open it is when you put yourself in legal jeporady, whether you had to sign for it or not.

 

[brainiac]

I always walk across the borders. Drove a few times in my young and dumb days but you cant hide 100 sust on your torso and walk so...Considering the increased security I see every time I go across-(Sun was last trip, tj) I am strongly considering MO for the next cycle.

 

[genarr3]

Good point... Meth is one of the last things you want to get caught with (right up there with a transvestite hooker.)

There is no way its in the same class as steroids, steroids have a legitimate medical use.

Trust me....you DON'T want to get caught with a transvestite hooker.

 

[rperry]

im not sure about the legal limit to warrent diffrant actions. i think it is up to the governing body at the time. i had 100 molvas and 85 sust amps siezed and all i recieved in the mail was a letter.


just like weed, who catches ya and when, and if the cop got laid last night or not!!! or got his doughnut!

 

[Frackal]

Usually depends on what kind of cycles the customs agents are doing. For example, | |D products have been getting good press lately so of course they are getting seized by gear-hungry Bordermen.

j/k