a quick question on anabolics

[blocky]

this is one of my first posts and before I get to my question, let me say hello and give a sincere thanks to all the members of elite. I have learned so much just reading and searching. I have been registered for a while, but rarely post as I find the search button is usually all I need to answer my questions. However I have not found a strait answer to one question that I have. I am no newbie to training and diet, howewer I am a newbie to anabolics and what they can do given a cetain setting. I am 29 years old. 5'9" and weigh about 200-205. I have a slow metabolism so putting on weight is not a problem, but losing it is. I havemanaged to get myself down to about 12% bf with training and diet, but now when I diet I see a significant loss in strength and muscle mass. my goal is to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. I want lean, solid gains in muscle that I will keep, even if a little at a time. I know that certain drugs give solid gains- eq, deca, winny etc. My question is can a guy use low calories for wight loss, and still gain solid muscle from some of these slower but more solid and permanent drugs, or would I be wasting money by taking riods on a low calorie diet. I take your replies very seriosly, and give you another sincere thanks.

 

[TxLonghorn]

I think for your goals, and using only anabolics, I would hit some fina/winny. Maybe a shot of test every 10 days or so to keep everything hunky-dory.

But, if you could afford it, I would think oxandrolone would be the best. It should help curb appetite, and you can gain muscle and lose fat. Albeit not a tremendous amount, but it is possible.

If you want other stuff, look into t3 and dnp.

 

[blocky]

thanks Tx I knew that someone on this board would know something. the problem is I only have one source and I cant get fina or oxandrolone. I have heard great things about eq as a solid drug what do you think of that stacked with winny. A llittle test every ten days? how about t400 I can get that but will it bloat me badly?

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well fina you can purchase legally and then convert it. It's pretty cheap relatively speaking. Probably the best bang for the buck gear available.

Eq is decent, but if you are trying to lose weight, the hunger you will get from the eq might make it more difficult. But many people use eq in cutting stacks and are very pleased with it. I typically recommend eq at 600mg/week, but that's for 'bulkers'. If you are going on low calorie, you should have good results with 400mg/week.

Will you bloat badly off of t400? I don't know, this will be determined by dose and how prone you are to bloating. If you are prone to bloating, then you could hit a half of a cc per 7-10 days. At that rate, you shouldn't bloat much if at all (that would be 200mg each 7-10 days). It is a mix of enanthate and cyp with a touch of prop (if I remember correctly). It is also painful as hell from what I understand.

Good luck.

 

[DrJMW]

If you can afford it, cycle Test with HGH..otherwise a decent cycle of Test stacked with aromasin will help.

 

[blocky]

sorry for the delay guys, my computer has been getting fixed and havent had access for a while. I thank you guys for your time in giving me the advice I asked for. this is why this is the best bodybuilding site on the net. no matter how trivial or obvious a persons question may seem to be, someone on here will always step up and give a strait answer. so i am going to assume that the answer to my question based on the replies you guys have given is, yes a person can gain lean muscle on a restricted calorie diet if on anabolics.

 

[Hoover]

If you do use gear stick with
Anavar
Winny
EQ
Fina

They are all good for gaining lean muscle and only aromatize slightly, thus you would not have to worry about putting on water weight.

 

[blocky]

thanks hoover. i will look into those four

 

[santo smith]

this is my first time using eq,
i am on 600mg a week and this is the day 15,
so far the diet is going well... the huger has not affected me, maybe it has not kicked in yet

 

[blocky]

hey santo. nice to hear from you. how are your gains from the eq. are you stacking it with anything else? I have heard graet things about eq and am really considering trying it, so keep me updated please. thanks again

 

[santo smith]

well right now i am on some d-bol but that will stop in a few weeks..
after that i will get on some winny..
really an not looking for size any more so the d-bol might stop soon
also armidex at .25-.50 ed
i hate the water that the d-bol is giveing me
i would use it, gets you hard as hell too