a flat cycle to limit sides?

[rambleon]

Hi
i am about to start a cycle after getting some advice from the righteous bros inhere.

I already ordered to my budget so my total stash is the same no matter how i use it.
I've been thinking that maybe a flat cycle with small doses would limit sides.

Here's the original plan:

Cycle no 1:
week 1-12 500 mg test en EW
week 1-12 50 mg proviron ED

week 1-9 66 mg tren en. EOD
week 4-12 100 mg depot winny EOD
week 6-12 40 mg anavar ED

A-dex as needed.
For PCT clomid (and maybe nolvadex)


The flat cycle would look like this:
Cycle no 2.

week 1-12 test en. 500 mg a week
week 1-12 50 mg of proviron ED
week 1-12 50 mg tren e. EOD
week 1-12 75 mg depot winny EOD
week 1-12 25 mg anavar ED

a-dex as needed
pct. clomid and nolva

Now i realize no 1 would give me the best primary effect but would no 2 limit the sides significantly, and would it be enough to be worth it?

Is EOD enough for winny depot and tren enanthate?

Any other comments welcome too.

See y'all

 

[silverbackn]

You're running quite a bit of stuff. That's a bit long to run winstrol and tren as well. Obviously I am not the benchmark, but I am in contest prep and using way less shit than you are. What are your goals and cycle experience. Are you getting ready for a show?

 

[UFC22]

week 1-12 500 mg test en EW
week 1-12 50 mg proviron ED

That should be your first cycle, nothing more.

 

[rambleon]

You're running quite a bit of stuff. That's a bit long to run winstrol and tren as well. Obviously I am not the benchmark, but I am in contest prep and using way less shit than you are. What are your goals and cycle experience. Are you getting ready for a show?

actually no im not on the competition circle. The last few years i've been running a series of simpler cycles such as: sust only, parabolan and cypionate (acne city!), primobolan and test enanthate, deca and test enanthate. Then i started reading up on synergy effects and thought: What if i combined more stuff at lower doses?
But u may be right. Maybe i should cut doses further since i really wanna go with this combination.
Any thoughts?

 

[rambleon]

That should be your first cycle, nothing more.

This is my 5th cycle not the first. Whatever gave u the impression it was my first?

Thanks for ur input anyway.

 

[solidspine]

week 1-12 test en. 500 mg a week
week 1-12 50 mg of proviron ED
week 1-12 50 mg tren e. EOD
week 1-12 75 mg depot winny EOD
week 1-12 25 mg anavar ED

Drop the proviron

Increase the Tren Ace to at least 50mg per day, always do Tren Daily.

So winny daily also.


Looks good to me

 

[rambleon]

Drop the proviron

Increase the Tren Ace to at least 50mg per day, always do Tren Daily.

So winny daily also.


Looks good to me

ty for the reply. The tren is enanthate not ace. As that is sloweracting than ace i thought eod should work but i might be wrong.

I think i may have to go with ed just to be safe.

I am surprised u liked no 2 better. Do u think it will be easier on sides than no 1?

 

[UFC22]

Try this:

1-12 - Test E 500mgs/EW
1-10 - Tren E 300mgs/EW
8-14 - Var 60mgs/ED
1-4 - Winny 50mgs/ED

I think that would be a great cycle. I am on something similar and it's awesome. If you have tren enanthate it only needs to be shot twice a week with your test. Good luck.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I agree with silvr... you've got alot goin' on in either cycle... if you want to minimize sides, minimize the number of compounds you're using... that being said, I'd go with a modified version of #2. Don't shoot tren enth ED or EOD... twice a week is sufficient. I'd also run winny for 6 weeks at the end of the cycle and move the var to the beginning for 6 weeks... consider var your kickstart. Not sure if you've run tren, proviron and test before, but that could be one androgenic nightmare if you're prone (prostate, hair loss, etc)... so keep that in mind.

 

[rambleon]

Try this:

1-12 - Test E 500mgs/EW
1-10 - Tren E 300mgs/EW
8-14 - Var 60mgs/ED
1-4 - Winny 50mgs/ED

why put the winny in the start phase? I thought it would do most good later on to build quality muscle but i never did winny before so what do i know?

 

[UFC22]

In my opinion it doesn't matter where you place the winstrol or var especially since you are using both. Just run the var a minimum of 6 weeks and winstrol a min of 4 weeks. Swap the var with winstrol if you would like to finish with it. It's a personal preference.

 

[rambleon]

In my opinion it doesn't matter where you place the winstrol or var especially since you are using both. Just run the var a minimum of 6 weeks and winstrol a min of 4 weeks. Swap the var with winstrol if you would like to finish with it. It's a personal preference.

Ok thank thats what i'll do then.
ty for the input.