A few questions

[sparkles111]

Hi there. Just a few questions. My husband is getting ready to start a cycle of test e 250mg/ week. for at least 10 weeks.

First off, is this dose effective enough to shut down sperm production and make conception almost impossible? secondly, if so, how long does it typically take? i was thinking a few weeks, but not sure. We have been trying to get pregnant for 7 months now. He just had a sperm test the other day and it was pretty normal from what they said. his count was good. he has only ever did a cycle once before in 2009 and then it was test 400 for 8 weeks.

and, if it will affect his sperm count/production, how long does it typically take for it to get back to almost normal, after he is done with his cycle.

can any of you help me understand this please. also, with this dosage does he still need to do PCT? he didnt do anything like that before the last time.

thank you.

 

[Sherk]

Yes 250 mgs a week will shut him down, and yes he needs to run a pct after cycle. If I were him I'd also run HCGenerate while on cycle. You can't really say for sure exactly how long it will take for him to recover from a cycle. That all depends on his pct and the reaction his body has to the compounds. The worse his pct is the longer it will take. Also running HCGenerate while on cycle will help the bounce back when he's done with his cycle. It is possible though to conceive while "on" but it's not very common. My buddy got his wife pregnant while he was in the middle of a cycle. The best thing to do is get blood work done before he starts then get blood and semin done after pct. Unleashed/post cycle and forma stanzol work well for pct and HCGenerate for oct with some sort of liver protector. I hope this helped

 

[sparkles111]

Thanks for the info. It is so interesting to hear this b/c I have been reading so many different things about how people have gotten pg while hubbys on cycle, etc. Its crazy to me. If its going to shut him down, how long will it take to get in his system and mess with his hormones? Also, how would we get HCG? thanks

 

[Sherk]

HCG is different than HCGenerate. Both are good but I prefer HCGenerate because it's pill form and I don't have to mix it with bacteriostatic water then keep it refrigerated. It's just easier. You can find it at needtobuildmuscle.com. Use discount code needto139 for 15% off. Shipping is free as well. By week 4-5 he will be completely shut down and his boys should start to shrink. That's where HCGenerate comes into play to help with the suppression and keep them somewhat plumped. IMO test starts messing with your natural hormones immediately whether injectable or oral. Some would disagree and say orals are faster than injectables. For me I feel the effects within a few hrs. He won't stop producing sperm immediately though. Your body still produces it's own natural test and sperm until the unnatural test takes over completely. What is his plans for pct? Also he would see much better results if he ran his test at 500 mgs a week, but there's no problem with 250. I'm finishing up a cycle in a week which I had to run it at 250 and I am getting good lean gains.

 

[cbodd]

I was on aas both times when wife became prego ... first time was 8yrs ago and I was on Test E and Tren and the 2nd time was year and a half ago and was on Test E and D-bols ... so its possible and if his sperm count is good right now then I would advise him to just wait until you get prego then he can start ? There no rush on joose .. it will always b there ....just my 2Cents .. good luck !!

 

[sparkles111]

HCG is different than HCGenerate. Both are good but I prefer HCGenerate because it's pill form and I don't have to mix it with bacteriostatic water then keep it refrigerated. It's just easier. You can find it at needtobuildmuscle.com. Use discount code needto139 for 15% off. Shipping is free as well. By week 4-5 he will be completely shut down and his boys should start to shrink. That's where HCGenerate comes into play to help with the suppression and keep them somewhat plumped. IMO test starts messing with your natural hormones immediately whether injectable or oral. Some would disagree and say orals are faster than injectables. For me I feel the effects within a few hrs. He won't stop producing sperm immediately though. Your body still produces it's own natural test and sperm until the unnatural test takes over completely. What is his plans for pct? Also he would see much better results if he ran his test at 500 mgs a week, but there's no problem with 250. I'm finishing up a cycle in a week which I had to run it at 250 and I am getting good lean gains.

He doesnt seem to have a plan of PCT at the moment. this will only be his 2nd cycle ever and he never did PCT before. However, now, since we are wanting to have another baby, it would be wise for him to do PCT im sure right? what would you all recommend? and where do we get it from? If he decides to run 500 instead of 250 is 10 weeks still enough time? he was actually thinking about doing the 500 for 10 weeks, instead of 250 for 16-20 weeks, which is what he was originally planning to do. I didnt really want him doing it longer than 10 weeks though b/c we are trying to get pregnant and he also only has enough right now for a 10 week cycle. so if he did 500mgs once a week that would only be a 5 week cycle. does that make sense? if he does 250mg /week then it would be 10 weeks. not sure which would be the better way to go for him. what do you think?

 

[sparkles111]

I was on aas both times when wife became prego ... first time was 8yrs ago and I was on Test E and Tren and the 2nd time was year and a half ago and was on Test E and D-bols ... so its possible and if his sperm count is good right now then I would advise him to just wait until you get prego then he can start ? There no rush on joose .. it will always b there ....just my 2Cents .. good luck !!

yes you are right there isnt a rush on the juice. but hes had it already for many months and been wanting to do it. i figure might as well just let him get it over with since hes been itching to do it for a while now. and we've already been trying for 7 months. i feel like he did his fair share in trying for me for the past 7 months. i feel like its my turn now to let him have what he wants for a short time. i mean who knows it could be another 6 months before i get pregnant. even though i know my chances of getting pregnant are greatly decreased. its hard. but when you are married and love each other you have to compromise some how.

 

[gymrattmike]

Honestly your husband should stay away from juice... Pct has to be in place before cycling. And you mentioned he has no plans for pct ?? Wow. Pct is more valuable than and is part of the cycle. He needs to stay away for now and educate himself and then when he is ready maybe....maybe look into using what's on hand at the time.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It would make sense if your husband asked the questions directly.

 

[Sherk]

PCT is more important than the cycle itself no matter if it's your first cycle or your 100th cycle. For him to not have a plan for it is redicilous. BEFORE he starts he should have oct, pct and ai on hand. If not than he could be screwed when it comes time he needs it and can't get it because it's all sold out. That happens all the time people posting how their cycle is done and they need a pct but it's sold out. What I would suggest is try for the baby now and the two of you can research proper cycles with pct and oct together then run the proper cycle when you have EVERYTHING. You can find all the proper oct, pct and AI's on needtobuildmuscle.com mrsupps.com and chemicalneed.com. Also on drugsprofiles.com you guys can research the compounds he will be taking and have a full understanding on what it does. Nelson wrote a great thread about pct. Seriously have you husband read it and I bet he'll tell you he needs a pct after that. Also needtogetaas wrote a great thread called taking steroids 101, read that as well. I found that a great learning piece. Unleashed/post cycle, forma stanzol is a good pct and HCGenerate is a good oct. I use letro for my AI but some people like other things.

 

[sparkles111]

Thanks for the replies guys. So, here is the scoop. I talked to him about PCT and the reasoning for it [hold onto gains, regulate hormones, etc] and he definately wants to do this now.

He says instead of doing 250/week for 10 weeks. now he wants to do 500mg/week for 10 weeks [starting with 250 week 1 then 500 till week 9 and week 10, 250 to finish it up.] like pyramid-ing [he said]? does that sound right? if not, can you please tell me what would be your best recommendation right now?

also, i have read about the PCT in depth and understand it much more now and reasons behind doing so. With that, and with what cycle he is planning to do, what would be the best PCT for him? We are clueless as far as dosages and which drugs are best.

any help is greatly appreciated!

 

[Sherk]

There's no need to start at 250 for the first week and end the last week at 250. Start at 500 and end at 500. Split the injections up in two a week. Something like 250 mg on mon and 250 mg on thur. Or you can do tue fri split. As far as pct I would use unleashed/post cycle combo starting two weeks after last injection. While on your cycle run HCGenerate starting week 5 or 6 at 3caps am and 2caps pm. Make sure to have an AI on hand incase of gyno symptoms. Have EVERYTHING on hand before you start.

 

[sparkles111]

There's no need to start at 250 for the first week and end the last week at 250. Start at 500 and end at 500. Split the injections up in two a week. Something like 250 mg on mon and 250 mg on thur. Or you can do tue fri split. As far as pct I would use unleashed/post cycle combo starting two weeks after last injection. While on your cycle run HCGenerate starting week 5 or 6 at 3caps am and 2caps pm. Make sure to have an AI on hand incase of gyno symptoms. Have EVERYTHING on hand before you start.

its better to split up the shots twice a week at 250? ive seen people do it this way and others just do it once a week? which is the best and why?

and where can i read about any side effects that he may get from the pct?? is that typical? thanks so much

 

[Sherk]

Sust has 4 esters that have different half lifes. 2 are short and 2 are long. So the advantage of pinning twice a week is that you can keep all the esters going and keep blood levels stable. The other reason is for me I don't like shooting 2cc's at once. So I do 1 cc mon and 1 cc thur. Drugsprofiles.com is a great website to learn about the test he's going to be taking. As for as sides of the pct I've never heard nor experianced any except my libido going crazy. I was always ready to go. The sides are positive and what you'd want to happen. I've never heard of negative sides. Pm Nelson Montana or needtogetaas. They would best answer that question for you. Needto is the creator and distributor of those pct products. He's very honest and has an amazing reputation. You honestly can't go wrong with his products. Unleashed/post cycle combo and HCGenerate. He'll also give you a discount code for 15% off.

 

[sparkles111]

ok that makes alot of sense now. thank you so much. i will definately get in touch with them. thanks again for all your help!!

 

[Sherk]

No problem. We're all here to help one another. Good luck to you guys.

 

[WillKill]

it would make sense if your husband asked the questions directly.

right!

 

[sparkles111]

just to update here. we just got our gear and supplies in yesterday. my husband will be starting on monday with his first shot.

most likely will be doing 1cc [250mgs] twice a week for 10 weeks...[total of 500mg/week]...of test E.

Got some HCg so going to start those injections a few weeks into cycle..probably week 3 and run that until last test E shot.

then for the PCT:

we have Nolvadex & Clomid on hand for plans for PCT. was planning on doing the standard dose of 50mg clomid for 4 weeks and 20-40 mg of Nolva for 4- 6 weeks.

also have arimidex on hand if needed.

can anyone please help critque/break it down for me further. have heard mixed reviewes about waiting 2 weeks after last test E shot for it to clear out before starting PCT...but maybe this is old news??

thanks alot

 

[deejleos]

There's no need to start at 250 for the first week and end the last week at 250. Start at 500 and end at 500. Split the injections up in two a week. Something like 250 mg on mon and 250 mg on thur. Or you can do tue fri split. As far as pct I would use unleashed/post cycle combo starting two weeks after last injection. While on your cycle run HCGenerate starting week 5 or 6 at 3caps am and 2caps pm. Make sure to have an AI on hand incase of gyno symptoms. Have EVERYTHING on hand before you start.

right on ^^^


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