A fair, thoughtful, objective conclusion about Stained's fiance

[Bikini Mod]

Re: This is total Bull Shit!!

Hi,

Kini Mom, I don't know you but I refuse to sit here and let these jerks treat you like this. You don't need to validate anything you do to anyone. Really think about who the hell it is you are talking to. Most of these guys are in highschool and there life is the gym and they know nothing else. They don't know the first thing about a mother's love for her children. They don't understand that in order for a women to be a good mother she needs to be happy as well. I have really become "sucked" in to this board over the last 2 weeks. I really though it was a good place to come and speak to people who are like-minded, people who all want the same thing. That thing is to have everything. To look good, feel good, have a good family life, fill in the blank here. What I see is a bunch of really imature assholes who have nothing better to do then go on a board and degrade everyone. They are soooo damn tough behind their computers. If you or I saw any of these jerks in person they would cave like little worms. I really don't give a crap about the backlash that this causes. You guys can come up on here and bash me all you like, but you have no right to attack anyone that you don't know better than a whole in the wall. Come on now-GROW UP!!! Why should anyone here feel intimidated to post anything. I was so happy when I found this board. Finally I had a place to come to and talk about the things that people dedicated to fitness have to deal with. For two weeks all I have been reading about is how you all hate women, and do drugs. This board really needs to be cleaned up. That's JMO. No let the bashing begin.....

I wonder what administration would say about this post?

Thank you Darlin'... it is very kind of you to say. And though it isn't necessary - I APPRECIATE IT.

Mandinka - thank you for your kind words. MY ONLY GOAL IS TO SET MYSELF UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IN THE EVENT THAT MY GIRLS WILL EVER WANT TO LIVE WITH ME - I WILL BE READY.

The only "sheepeople" who even TRY to go there with me a little boys that lack a life. Regardless of their chronological age - they are still "stuck" in a particular mindset that makes ALL MEN look bad. But fortunately, WOMEN can differentiate between MEN and BOYS.

I normally let a lot of stupid shit go unanswered because I have better things to do. I will admit that this sometimes hurts me though. I have posted a lot of specific information about my divorce - yet still because of the anonymity of the web I am not identifiable. I exposed many of my weaknesses in the hopes that it might help others.

I honestly never realized just HOW SCUMMY MOST ATTORNEYS WERE UNTIL RECENTLY. If I could post the most intimate details of why I am forced to make the choices I do, most would be left speechless... It doesn't matter because in the end, I KNOW FOR FACT that this will make the lives of my children BETTER.

Not one single one of you little internet cowboys knows what it is like in my shoes - NOT ONE. You can discount me by calling me whatever harsh "silly name of the moment" that you can think of then give each other "cyber pats on the back" at your rapier wit. But I think that says something about your character. What kind of person actually "GETS OFF" on the difficult circumstances of another? I actually feel sorry for you guys... I honestly do. But that does not mean that I am going to sit here and listen to you trash talk me with TOTAL BULLSHIT LIES.

I don't need anyone's sympathy. Hell, I have been far more blessed than most will ever be and I count my blessings daily.

The only reason I let you people in on the stuff I do is to let you know that this shit could very well happen to you. I am not asking for advice or even support. I have my family for that. And not one but TWO therapists, a social worker, a judge and an experienced attorney who is NOT raping my ass who wholeheartedly agree that given the circumstances ... THERE IS NO OTHER WAY FOR MY CHILDREN TO BE HAPPY IN THE LONG RUN.

If you can't fucking understand this - THEN FUCK YOU. Go smoke a cigar, watch a stag film and pat each other on the ass while grunting...

 

[dballer]

I am not happy about your situation.. you got me all wrong. I do not smoke cigars.. I HATE porn.. and anything that has to do with slutty women.

For some reason you seem to think that I get off on making someone sad.. but you are SOOOOOO wrong. If you could see past your blind hate then you could see my point.

stop acting like a psycho and do somthing positive. titty dancing is not positive. If you think that tough times come from this board.. well then you are the one with alot to learn. I was not trying to degrade you but trying to make you re-think your decision. Read it again.. I was serious when I said that I believed that you would never give up on your kids. If that sounds like I am getting off on your situation.. well that is your loss darlin.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Baby - I don't TITTY DANCE. I dance in a bikini. It is a job like ANY OTHER JOB THAT IS BENEATH ME.... scrubbing toilets or waiting tables. Both jobs are viewed as being degrading. But FOR NOW, it is paying our bills. Anyone who judges me because of a stoopid job isn't worth my time. However, a lesson well learned as I USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE.

I do not have hate. (OK for attorneys in the US - I have a tremendous amount of contempt but I am honestly trying to deal with that.)

You don't have all the facts so how could you POSSIBLY even try to say that your cheapshots at me are an attempt to "MAKE ME RETHINK MY DECISIONS"? I have been thinking about this for MONTHS and was hoping to circumvent the necessity. But THERE IS NO OTHER REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE FOR MY CHILDREN OR ME. You don't have children so YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

If you did then you would "get" the part about gladly giving a child up so that THEY COULD LIVE.... REGARDLESS OF HOW IT WILL DESTROY YOU, PERSONALLY.

Bottom line is this:

My husband has issues but HE DOES TAKE GOOD CARE OF OUR GIRLS. I never ONCE disputed this and I KNOW THIS FOR FACT. Do I follow him around? NO. But I can see in my girls' schoolwork and in their behavior when they are with me that they are HAPPY when they are with him. Does this mean that they love me less? NO. All that this means that IF I ever had to move far away then they would be well cared for.

I am taking A BATH FINANCIALLY and giving up everyone I know and love, an entire way of life to move to a country where I can't even understand the damned TV! (Not that I watch TV anyways LOL) Why? To be with a guy? JESUS H CHRIST - NO! I PURPOSELY CUT HIM OFF BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE EMOTIONAL ENERGY TO INVEST IN A "RELATIONSHIP" WITH ANY GUY.

Not to mention the fact that I don't WANT to commit to anyone EXCEPT ME - for the first time in my life!!!

Am I done with him? I don't know and I don't care. My only priority is to set MY LIFE up as quickly as possible so that IF my children ever want to leave their father - I WILL BE READY TO TAKE CARE OF US BY MYSELF.

How any of this makes me a psycho whore who is abandoning her children to run off in pursuit of some "fruity dream" is beyond me.

 

[Bikini Mod]

PS - Dballer - you will be one of THE FIRST people that I mail a copy of one of my books to...

THAT IS POSITIVE - THAT IS WHAT I DO, BUT UNTIL I CAN GENERATE INCOME FROM IT - I WILL HAVE TO TAKE OTHER JOBS.

 

[Mandinka2]

I am not happy about your situation.. you got me all wrong. I do not smoke cigars.. I HATE porn.. and anything that has to do with slutty women.

For some reason you seem to think that I get off on making someone sad.. but you are SOOOOOO wrong. If you could see past your blind hate then you could see my point.

stop acting like a psycho and do somthing positive. titty dancing is not positive. If you think that tough times come from this board.. well then you are the one with alot to learn. I was not trying to degrade you but trying to make you re-think your decision. Read it again.. I was serious when I said that I believed that you would never give up on your kids. If that sounds like I am getting off on your situation.. well that is your loss darlin.

Well Bro , call me a stinker but you did come off as bein a little ruff on Kini. She's seems to be havin a tough time of it lately and is decent enough to share parts of her life with us here , unlike u and I, I should add. Maybe you should try and be a little more constructive with the comments , huh?
BKM , please don't be down , funny that at times I have felt that I was one of your harshest critics and yet I hate to see you trashed. Take care .

 

[powerforward]

bmom, why the move to france? i would think that you would want to be close to your children. And without trying to sound to judgemental, you say your dancing is a job that is beneath you, then why do it? if it truley is beneath you then you should be able to get just as good a paying job doing something that is not beneath you. i'm not trying to pile on you, but it bothers me when people say that are doing something that is beneath them when in reality that is all they are qualified for. I hope this doesn't come out like an attack on you, i've been reading some of your threads lately and feel for what you are going through.

 

[dballer]

I do not think I ever called you a whore. I did not say you were following a fruity dream.. I said it was a midlife dream.

I do not have kids. But to think I do not understand is being a bit judgemental as well. Don't you think?

So you are going through a divorce? sorry about that.. but it is not my fault. But when I hear about this shit on a general discussion board I do have the right to say what I think. A cheap shot?? I doubt it. I do not need to take cheap shots.

If you had any clue about mean old crabby hate-filled DBaller you would know that I am one of the most giving and caring people in the word. I do not stand for bullshit, weakness, lies, cheating or emotional crap.

My advice is get the job done. You know what you want? Then go do it. Me nor anyone else here has the power to stop you, only voice our opinion. In mine I think you should do somthing diffrent. Sorry if it hurts your feelings. But to be honest.. I really think that in your heart you know I am right.. or else you would not have let my statments hit such a nerve with you. Just because you do not like me and vic versa does not mean that I am wrong.

no matter what it is, what it takes, kids are the most important thing in this world. Everyone grows old. Everyone has hard times. But not everyone is faced with your decision. You have a choice. I do not think yours is the right one. You can hate me for it.. tell me fuck you.. tell me I do not know jack shit.. whatever.. you are not gonna change mean ol' DBaller's mind. EVER!

 

[dballer]

Well Bro , call me a stinker but you did come off as bein a little ruff on Kini. She's seems to be havin a tough time of it lately and is decent enough to share parts of her life with us here , unlike u and I, I should add. Maybe you should try and be a little more constructive with the comments , huh?
BKM , please don't be down , funny that at times I have felt that I was one of your harshest critics and yet I hate to see you trashed. Take care .

That is the way I am. Life is not kind.. so nobody should get used to being treated that way by strangers. If talking to me will make someones skin a little tougher.. well, that is my way of helping the world out a bit.

 

[Bikini Mod]

bmom, why the move to france? i would think that you would want to be close to your children. And without trying to sound to judgemental, you say your dancing is a job that is beneath you, then why do it? if it truley is beneath you then you should be able to get just as good a paying job doing something that is not beneath you. i'm not trying to pile on you, but it bothers me when people say that are doing something that is beneath them when in reality that is all they are qualified for. I hope this doesn't come out like an attack on you, i've been reading some of your threads lately and feel for what you are going through.

I don't take your comments as harsh at all.

My children ARE ALWAYS WITH ME. A lot of you have no clue how much I have already been without them...

Many of us take jobs that are "beneath us" because we need to pay our bills while we are working towards something better in life.

I didn't finish college, but got married instead. I stayed home with my children for NINE YEARS, took care of my family and helped my husband with our business. So when I was thrust into the work world (I had only modeled VERY part time before that) when my husband's CUNT attorney told him to STOP PAYING THE BILLS - I had to get a job FAST. I have a nice physique, a pretty smile and I don't mind dancing. The job offers tremendous flexibility and it is the most amount of money for the least amount of time right now... but it was only temporary when I got into it and I am doing what I need to do in order to quit.

I can't specifically speak to why I must move so far away because it would portray other parties involved in a bad light. This will serve no useful purpose. Instead all I can answer is, "Why NOT France?"

I visited Paris this summer past and when I was made aware of the laws and social benefits (healthcare and 35 hour rule), superior education, and I am VERY comfortable in Europe (my parents are European and I was raised this way). I have already established very strong business contacts in Paris to promote my art... so WHY NOT?

I don't know if France will be my permanent home, but I will NOT be returning to the US - only as a visitor. This is a wonderful country and I am NOT DOWNING IT IN ANY WAY but I just don't want to live here anymore. I have many reasons and for me and my children these reasons are good enough for us.

Mandinka - thank you. I have never felt attacked by you, ever. I have always respected you and your viewpoints and have welcomed your arguements as they were always intelligent, thoughtful and allowed me to look at things in a different light. Many of the board members can take example from you. You don't sugarcoat anything. You speak your mind, but you don't feel the need to degrade or belittle when expressing your point of view regardless of how "heated" the debate.

 

[bwood]

I think we are missing the point here that strippers like to drink cum and have sex... in general... I'm sure there are a few exceptions....

As there are some who probably love anal.

C-ditty

a very important point...

and yes they do...

and no dont get involved in the emotional part...

and yes, i am beyond the emotional need part anyway...

life is good...