9 week course and slow gains

[peteefs]

This is my third course and i am struggling. Iam 6 foot tall 187lbs and about 16% bodyfat.

My last two courses were deca and sus

This time i started with Testosterone enanthate, tren and 30mg dianobol this was for the first 6 weeks but only put on about 6lbs, i was taking Nolvadex at the same time to keep water retention down.

Because this didm't seem to work i changed on to deca and sus again still taking the Nolvadex, plus included creatine mono and glutamine. but still struggling to put on any real size.

In 9 weeks i have put on about 9lbs most lean.

I train 4 times per week. i eat very well 6-7 times per day around 500 calories per meal. always have post workout shake with lots of glucose in.

Any ideas as to why the gains have not come this time? i still have 3 weeks of deca and sus still to take.

 

[Ozz2001]

Why would you switch up? So you gained 6 pounds which is probably soild keepable gains...Heres a wakeup call .....People that gain 16 pounds in 6 weeks have gained mostly water..The slow gains you make are the ones that you usally going to keep when you come off....Read Read Read!

 

[needtogetaas]

This is my third course and i am struggling. Iam 6 foot tall 187lbs and about 16% bodyfat.

My last two courses were deca and sus

This time i started with Testosterone enanthate, tren and 30mg dianobol this was for the first 6 weeks but only put on about 6lbs, i was taking Nolvadex at the same time to keep water retention down.

Because this didm't seem to work i changed on to deca and sus again still taking the Nolvadex, plus included creatine mono and glutamine. but still struggling to put on any real size.

In 9 weeks i have put on about 9lbs most lean.

I train 4 times per week. i eat very well 6-7 times per day around 500 calories per meal. always have post workout shake with lots of glucose in.

Any ideas as to why the gains have not come this time? i still have 3 weeks of deca and sus still to take.

were is youre protein at.at youre wight you want to be takeing in about 220-230 grams a day.this might help you a bit.

 

[peteefs]

My diet is really good, plenty of chicken, tuna, a couple of protein shakes per day etc way over 250g per day. i eat some fruit and veg (about 5), porridge, weetabix, pasta, rice, the usual. once a week i might get a chicken shish as a threat. thats as way out as it goes.

 

[Outtlaw]

If you're adding a pound of muscle a week then you're doing just fine.

 

[letsrun4it]

If you're adding a pound of muscle a week then you're doing just fine.

yea no kidding

 

[smoke67]

How old are you? I am in my late 30's and my gains come slower than when I was in my 20's. On a usual run of deca and test I probably keep 7 or 8 lbs. I would sug. increasing cals and protien. Keep the creatine for after. GOOD LUCK

 

[peteefs]

Cheers guys
Iam 23 years old, always been a hardgainer, small shoulders but iam slowly improving.
The plan is once i finish the course i will then stay on the creatine and the nolvadex also include some tribulas, i have herd these as a package will help me keep more of my gains.

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

Yes son, increase the calories by 500 a day. If your body fat is going up though, then cut it down after a trial and error stage. Stop drinking alcohol if you do only once a month have a few beers.
It takes time for size but it will come! Good luck , M.M

 

[cyrex]

This is my third course and i am struggling. Iam 6 foot tall 187lbs and about 16% bodyfat.

My last two courses were deca and sus

This time i started with Testosterone enanthate, tren and 30mg dianobol this was for the first 6 weeks but only put on about 6lbs, i was taking Nolvadex at the same time to keep water retention down.

Because this didm't seem to work i changed on to deca and sus again still taking the Nolvadex, plus included creatine mono and glutamine. but still struggling to put on any real size.

In 9 weeks i have put on about 9lbs most lean.

I train 4 times per week. i eat very well 6-7 times per day around 500 calories per meal. always have post workout shake with lots of glucose in.

Any ideas as to why the gains have not come this time? i still have 3 weeks of deca and sus still to take.

why the novaldex? take some arimidex
nolva will only help if you get estrogen related gyno symptoms

Also you aren't eating enough

get your diet up to 5000 Cal per day
and at least 300 grams of protein/day