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9 days of nolvedex and "NOTHING"

but it cant be, ive had the symptoms for 3 weeks and i just started the deca a week ago, the rest has been test so theres no way
 
Well if you already had symptoms before, then the Deca certainly wont help. I would recomend keeping the nolva at 40mg's per day and dropping your test to 750mg's and the deca to 300mg's. See if this works, if not then drop the dosages some more.

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mike001 said:
something has to work!! dammit. i'm trying 2 different brands and the puffy nips are only getting worse by the day!! it's starting to freak me out!! i figured this would have it under control but it's getting worse. what the hell am i going to do, not only am i haveing poor gains, now THIS!

it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex
 
eviction said:
it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex

Start on Vitex its an herbal you can get from GNC or any health food store until you get the bromo or dostinex, it usually is used as a preventative but might keep it from getting worse until you get one of the other two, they are the only real cure for progesterone induced gyno.I'd keep taking the nolva too while doing the Bromo or dostinex.Good Luck
 
eviction said:
it is most likely gyno related to progesterone. If nolva isnt working, get some bromo or dostinex
quick question bro, if it is progestorne induced, then how much bromo would one need to take to lower symtoms? what is the average dose?
 
and just to add on to the questions already, starting liquidex before the cycle and running all the way through would prevent gyno related to progesterone right? or no... :)
 
BrandonXJ said:
and just to add on to the questions already, starting liquidex before the cycle and running all the way through would prevent gyno related to progesterone right? or no... :)

eh, nevermind.. looked into it

"The presence of progesterone in male bodybuilders is through the use of the progestins, i.e. Oxymetholone (Anadrol, Anapolan50), Trenbolone (Finaject, Parabolan) and Nandrolone (Deca durabolin). A large problem for the bodybuilder is that the symptoms displayed by progesterone are identical to those of oestrogen, but the concurrent use of the typical anti-oestrogens appears to have no effect in controlling or treating it. "

I aint taking any of that anyway..
 
oh, found this.. don't know if you have any winny on hand.

"The use of Winstrol is also an effective method of controlling progesterone-induced gyno, as it is anti-progestagenic. An effective dose appears to be in the vicinity of 50mg eod (depot) or 30 to 35mg/day (tabs) although this dose may require increasing depending on the doses being employed in the stack. "
 
Winny works well for this problem but I have always used it WITH high doses of fina or deca not as damage control after the fact.
 
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