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9/11 Pentagon conspiracy video

It is the saudi / Bush regime play for Global dominance.
 
The plane crashed while "cloaked" like the Bird of Prey from Star Trek.
 
Yeah I'm not exactly sure what it could be. I saw that a week ago though, and it got me thinking. If it were a missile or fighter jet, there could be two big reasons why the government wouldn't tell us.

One being that, it would show that terrorists were able to hijack a military aircraft, which would probably put people here in a state of unrest.

Two, it was an aircraft from outside the U.S., one of our enemies or somesuch, and it was able to get past our borders withotu detection which would, again, put people in a state of unrest.

Three, some nut decided he was going to bomb the pentagon because he had too much to drink and was a part of the airforce or something and didn't support the Bush Admin.

Just ideas...
 
im good friends people that witnessed the plane crashing into the pentagon-this video and this theory are crap.
 
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rushx79 said:
snopes talks a good bit about this site and the two charlatans behind it.
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Anyone who believes this conspiracy theory either isnt that bright or hasnt done enough researching on their own.
 
75th said:
Anyone who believes this conspiracy theory either isnt that bright or hasnt done enough researching on their own.
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The government has a motive and the ablity to do such things. So you will need to give more explaination.

And seriously, what research have you done that did not involve information provided by the government? Because many arguments that I have seen for justifying the government come down to "I know the government is good because it told me so"
 
Tom Treutlein said:
And what makes you say that? What research have you done to counter what was said in the video, hmm?
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is this addressed to me? If so than it raises the question of whether or not you read my post.
 
Tiervexx said:
The government has a motive and the ablity to do such things. So you will need to give more explaination.

And seriously, what research have you done that did not involve information provided by the government? Because many arguments that I have seen for justifying the government come down to "I know the government is good because it told me so"
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Both you and Tom:

If you guys do a simple search on Google you will come up with a few things: photographs of bystanders capturing large pieces of the passenger jet in the foreground. Not just small pieces of scrap metal, but actual chunks: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/13.jpg

Heres a civilian photo of a nearby lightpole that was clipped by the incoming plane: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/1.jpg



Also, you have probably heard how during the attack the Pentagon was undergoing renovations, right? Wells, those renovations included reinforcing the outer structure to withstand a bomb, missile, etc.

One of the main gripes by conspiracy theorists is that after the attack, the entire Pentagon wasnt destroyed like the WTC towers. What they fail to realize is that the Pentagon is/was the most heavily defended military installation next to Norad. If you look at any other photos BESIDES the ones posted by conspiracy theorists, you can clearly see how the wings of the flight caused considerable damage to the bottom floors. Again, the Pentagon was specifically designed to prevent such a devastating attack, hence the whole thing not imploding.

The following link was originally provided by pigeon-rat. Cbs is hardly government regulated: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/28/60II/main319383.shtml
 
75th said:
Both you and Tom:

If you guys do a simple search on Google you will come up with a few things: photographs of bystanders capturing large pieces of the passenger jet in the foreground. Not just small pieces of scrap metal, but actual chunks: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/13.jpg

Heres a civilian photo of a nearby lightpole that was clipped by the incoming plane: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/1.jpg



Also, you have probably heard how during the attack the Pentagon was undergoing renovations, right? Wells, those renovations included reinforcing the outer structure to withstand a bomb, missile, etc.

One of the main gripes by conspiracy theorists is that after the attack, the entire Pentagon wasnt destroyed like the WTC towers. What they fail to realize is that the Pentagon is/was the most heavily defended military installation next to Norad. If you look at any other photos BESIDES the ones posted by conspiracy theorists, you can clearly see how the wings of the flight caused considerable damage to the bottom floors. Again, the Pentagon was specifically designed to prevent such a devastating attack, hence the whole thing not imploding.
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In case you could not figure it out on your own, a 757 sould have left many, many times that much debree.

The following link was originally provided by pigeon-rat. Cbs is hardly government regulated: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/28/60II/main319383.shtml
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I don't think they are government regulated, but the major TV news networks get their information from the government, so the effect is the same.
 
"In case you could not figure it out on your own, a 757 sould have left many, many times that much debree."

if you would expand your search beyond a single conspiracy theory site you would realise that there was plenty of debris.
 
I'm not even going to argue this with you people 'cuz regardless, you're not going to change what you think, and I really don't give a fuck. I don't trust the government. Never have, never will. No one should. The higher-ups have always kept things from the people, and for the most part, for good reason. They're afraid the sheep will panic.

Look at how soft our country has become. Wow. Mortal Kombat makes Columbine happen, or some shit.
 
It was really a flying saucer like the one that crashed at Roswell. My father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate knows a guy that witnessed the whole thing.
 
Tiervexx said:
In case you could not figure it out on your own, a 757 sould have left many, many times that much debree.
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Dude, I provided one single picture. Do a search and youll find tons more.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
I'm not even going to argue this with you people 'cuz regardless, you're not going to change what you think, and I really don't give a fuck.
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Same goes from us normal people to you. The difference is, we actually provide proof, while theorists provide nothing but heresay.
 
The most damning points against the government are the confiscated videos that have never been released to the public. Why cover these up? We all saw the planes smack into the twin towers so why not release these videos.

Are there any FOA request for these video tapes?
 
What proof did you provide? Oh right, a picture of an unscathed part of the airliner, when the rest of it was obliterated entirely. None of that nice paint remains anywhere else, huh? That's some amazing paint. Same as the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

And as WODIN said, why bother to confiscate and never release the videos?

So high and mighty, huh? You're normal and I'm not? Haha, right. Okay man. 'cuz I don't trust the government and believe everything they spew out to us, and I take into account the fact that there's a strong possibility other stuff could have happened. Fuck off man. Normal my ass.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
What proof did you provide? Oh right, a picture of an unscathed part of the airliner, when the rest of it was obliterated entirely. None of that nice paint remains anywhere else, huh? That's some amazing paint. Same as the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

And as WODIN said, why bother to confiscate and never release the videos?

So high and mighty, huh? You're normal and I'm not? Haha, right. Okay man. 'cuz I don't trust the government and believe everything they spew out to us, and I take into account the fact that there's a strong possibility other stuff could have happened. Fuck off man. Normal my ass.
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I dont believe everything the government tells me. Quite the opposite actually. I was a Ranger who fought in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Obviously, we were required to get a Top Secret clearance, which during this time really opened my eyes to a lot of things that are withheld from the general public...and I was just a foot soldier for crying out loud. Who knows what else the government doesnt release.

As for the confiscation of tapes, if you were in charge of the country would you want to broadcast video footage of what works and what doesnt work when attacking a US military installation?
 
They already know what works - surprise!

That and attacking an area that wasn't fully constructed yet. A weakpoint in the structure.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
for the most part, for good reason. They're afraid the sheep will panic.
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here is where I disagree with you.

High-up officials have much to gain by abusing their power. It is naive to think that such positions can exist without attrarcting power freaks.
 
Tom Treutlein said:
I'm not even going to argue this with you people 'cuz regardless, you're not going to change what you think, and I really don't give a fuck. I don't trust the government. Never have, never will. No one should. The higher-ups have always kept things from the people, and for the most part, for good reason. They're afraid the sheep will panic.

Look at how soft our country has become. Wow. Mortal Kombat makes Columbine happen, or some shit.
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lol. you ask him if he's done any research and apparently he has and post it and all you can respond with is this. you fucking called him out and now back it up. instead of that lame ass response.

conspiracy nut websites rely on the fact that you are not going to question thier propaganda bullshit. and look who the sheeple are!
 
WODIN said:
The most damning points against the government are the confiscated videos that have never been released to the public. Why cover these up? We all saw the planes smack into the twin towers so why not release these videos.

Are there any FOA request for these video tapes?
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This is a very good point.

Release the videos that show what they are supposed to show and the theories go....poof.
 
spongebob said:
lol. you ask him if he's done any research and apparently he has and post it and all you can respond with is this. you fucking called him out and now back it up. instead of that lame ass response.

conspiracy nut websites rely on the fact that you are not going to question thier propaganda bullshit. and look who the sheeple are!
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Uhm, what research? The scrap metal in perfect condition when the rest of the airliner mysteriously vanished? Nuh-uh. Research my ass. I think the flash makes a lot more sense than anything else. I agree with a lot of its points, I don't care to research it. I just find it interesting, and could see why the government would lie about something like that.

The lawn isn't damaged.
No marks to indicate where the wings or tail hit the building.
One piece of scrap metal with no charred paint or anything sitting there.

I'll buy the theory before I buy shit the government tries to sell us.
 
True....some brightly painted aluminum is hardly proof of a wrecked 757 or whatever.

The explosion was not strong enough to vaporize an airliner.

So where are the remains???

This is getting interesting though those cable spools could be photoshop work.

Releasing the videos could quiet the theorists down.
 
dumbasses who think this is a legitimate theory, go do some research and prove it. that flash animation showed you the impact from an angle where the cable spools obstructed the flight path, but from the angle the plane went, they weren't in the fucking way. get the full picture and think for yourselves.

i've already posted evidence to refute this load of horsecrap a few times. there are hundreds of pictures of it to show that a plane hit the building.
 
I love how people try to make a buck, or try to get a little bit of attention from a tragedy like this. Then the conspiracy theorists get a hold of it and run with it. The government has to be lying. They have to be hiding something. It can't be as simple as some madman deciding that for whatever twisted reason that he hates a group of people so much that he would hatch this plot.


Then there are those who want to politicize 9/11. The president had to have known before hand. Kerry would have handled it differently. Then they criticize Bush for using the 9/11 events in his campaign, when they are doing the exact same thing. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they are treating this event. I wouldn't vote for either one of these classless clowns.
 
big4life said:
I love how people try to make a buck, or try to get a little bit of attention from a tragedy like this. Then the conspiracy theorists get a hold of it and run with it. The government has to be lying. They have to be hiding something. It can't be as simple as some madman deciding that for whatever twisted reason that he hates a group of people so much that he would hatch this plot.


Then there are those who want to politicize 9/11. The president had to have known before hand. Kerry would have handled it differently. Then they criticize Bush for using the 9/11 events in his campaign, when they are doing the exact same thing. Both sides should be ashamed of the way they are treating this event. I wouldn't vote for either one of these classless clowns.
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http://www.badnarik.org/

Michael Badnarik in '04.
 
It was mark mcquires home run ball that hit the pentagon, the feds paid him not to say anything to give us a reason to go to war .... maybe not
 
75th said:
Dude, I provided one single picture. Do a search and youll find tons more.
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In the interest of self preservation, I am bailing on this.

However.....I did go a search. I did not find the "tons more."

I found a lot of other related stuff.
 
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