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coldblue1955
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nicolas cage will play a firefighter.megamania500 said:
Kakdiesel
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i respect your opinion a lot reguru but you have to watch it and see how well it was put together. Their facts were laid out prety straight forward with some good research and footage shown.redguru said:
sorry but I dont think anybody can not give this movie and its message ample consideration.
mrplunkey
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It's just full of really biased stuff.
I really enjoyed where they compared a small corporate plane hitting a light pole at low speed (the light pole would clearly win) and a massive commercial airliner hitting light poles at full speed (the light poles would be leveled).
Funny how they didn't consider tons and tons and tons of weight difference, the relative strength of a commercial airliner, and a few hundred miles per hour of air speed.
But hey, if it makes the conspiracy stories work better, then so be it.
I really enjoyed where they compared a small corporate plane hitting a light pole at low speed (the light pole would clearly win) and a massive commercial airliner hitting light poles at full speed (the light poles would be leveled).
Funny how they didn't consider tons and tons and tons of weight difference, the relative strength of a commercial airliner, and a few hundred miles per hour of air speed.
But hey, if it makes the conspiracy stories work better, then so be it.
redguru
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Kakdiesel said:
I watched the entire movie, and no matter how well you jumble together data to project a theory, it does not make it the truth. Smoke and mirrors playing up to the masses that panic in the face of anything military, the authors of this movie and others of thier ilk are doing the same thing they accuse the government of.
If you really have the time, I can tear this whole movie to shreds.
Kakdiesel
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redguru said:
how about we go slowly.
1) explain the "hole" in the pentagon that a 757 would NOT make
2) Secondary explosions
3) Video images of levels of floors "exploding" before the top of the WTC was coming down.
4) the demolition style crumpling of two of the largest buildings in the world
5) the 2.2 billion dollar insurance claim after they were destroyed
6) Fake cell phone calls to people's parents from flight 93
redguru
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Kakdiesel said:
I'll begin with the Pentagon Hole Theory, great Moonbattery to say the least.
You can't discount 100's of eyewitnesses who saw the 757 hit the Pentagon. Take first, Steve Anderson of USA Today
...At that moment we all knew what had happened. Terrorists had struck hard in New York. We all felt vulnerable in our own "Twin Towers" that overlook Washington, D.C. We have had several bomb threats over the years, but we never dreamed that something like this would happen.
Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.
It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke...
Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye.
It didn't register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn't believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke...
c. Popular Mechanics did a large piece debunking 9-11 myths. In regards to the hole in the pentagon, they write:
When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
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