800mgs a week down to 200 mgs

[nab12]

I know a lot of people dont like this idea....but i'd still like to get an answer...

if im doing 800mgs a week of test for 16 weeks and then drop down to 200mgs a week until the next cycle, approx another 16 weeks, will I have erection problems? I know a lot of folks will say dont do the 200 mgs and do a proper PCT but i'm just asking if there will be normal problem that are associated with coming off??

 

[GUARDIAN]

I have had no libido or sexual disfunction problems doing this.

 

[eddymerckx]

I know a lot of people dont like this idea....but i'd still like to get an answer...

if im doing 800mgs a week of test for 16 weeks and then drop down to 200mgs a week until the next cycle, approx another 16 weeks, will I have erection problems? I know a lot of folks will say dont do the 200 mgs and do a proper PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - but i'm just asking if there will be normal problem that are associated with coming off??

it is really kinda simple, you either on, doing p/c/t/ or off. essentially, you would just be doing hrt, just at a bit higher dose. the thinking is, let your body return to whatever its balance is--the problem with long-term use of higher levels of test are--they think, likely more related to the increased estrogen (that is among the lastest thought of protate probs is the estrogen), you will have to work really hard to keep your diet such that your cholesterol does not stay out of whack for too long. you also can have some sexual sides--but everything is individual.

that said, at 41, i am weighing the risks/rewards of the same thing--but i do not have low natty test, so i am leaning towards not staying on--except that i find my mood and outlook on life is so much better--but is that natural--would i lose some of what is a part of life--too deep to think about on an empty stomach. yes/no/yes/no/shit i can't decide

i think--just in my opinion, depending on your age, it is something to think long and hard about--and considering that they are some great supps that are less drastic than test, some say being off is just a different stage of development (let the rest of your body catch-up to some of the gains....

man, long ass answer, but i understand--and i would bet every bro on here understands as well, where you are coming from.

don't think i helped, but somethings to think about

 

[OMEGA]

whats your height weight and body fat

 

[nab12]

5'10 195 11%

 

[todoveritas]

The quick and dirty answer is: It Depends.
The two major factors are your current age and testosterone bioavailability (also known as free testostosterone or FT). This is bc Sex Hormone Binding Globulin can bind to testosterone and you can get ED (erectile dysfunction) even with high levels of Total Testosterone (TT). Most docs dont know this, however and will just order TT.

Now TT below 300 ng/dl is clearly low and when we treat ED, we try to get levels to that of a 20-30 year old man (usually 450-1000 ng/dl). This is almost always achieved using less than 200 mg of test cyp a week. You say this is the amount you continue to take, even when you are "off". Be advised, even at that low dose, you are NOT off!

So....the one-eyed monster should be fine. Be aware however, that essentially you are staying on year-round and when and if you do come off, your HTPA suppression will be major will need some serious PCT at that time to avoid major problems.

 

[OMEGA]

5'10 195 11%

250 week

 

[nab12]

The quick and dirty answer is: It Depends.
The two major factors are your current age and testosterone bioavailability (also known as free testostosterone or FT). This is bc Sex Hormone Binding Globulin can bind to testosterone and you can get ED (erectile dysfunction) even with high levels of Total Testosterone (TT). Most docs dont know this, however and will just order TT.

Now TT below 300 ng/dl is clearly low and when we treat ED, we try to get levels to that of a 20-30 year old man (usually 450-1000 ng/dl). This is almost always achieved using less than 200 mg of test testosterone cypionate a week. You say this is the amount you continue to take, even when you are "off". Be advised, even at that low dose, you are NOT off!

So....the one-eyed monster should be fine. Be aware however, that essentially you are staying on year-round and when and if you do come off, your HTPA suppression will be major will need some serious PCT - post cycle therapy - at that time to avoid major problems.

good reply...i appreciate the help...you to Omega

 

[eddymerckx]

i think if you do it, find a way to get pharm gear--i say this b/c i would want to be sure of the dose (on cycle an overdose is, well, who cares, but i would not want to run 4-500 a week and not know it) and considering the number of times you will use it, you increase your odds of a bad batch.

 

[nab12]

eddymerckx...your so right. I've thought about that, and its a concern because I'm still using a UG lab gear that i've had for a few months...and still got a lot of it left...but considering going ahead and running some human grade stuff.....thanks for the advice...thats a good thing to think about

i think if you do it, find a way to get pharm gear--i say this b/c i would want to be sure of the dose (on cycle an overdose is, well, who cares, but i would not want to run 4-500 a week and not know it) and considering the number of times you will use it, you increase your odds of a bad batch.