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WIDELAT

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I JUST GOT HOOKED UP WITH SOME 80 MG OXYCOTTONS THE STRONGEST I EVER HAD WAS 40 AND THOSE THINGS LASTED ALL DAY 80 IS GOING TO BE CRAZY. I'LL HAVE TO WORK UP TO IT I THINK.
 
.... uh oh... just be careful widelat ....pk's aren't the greatest thing in the world even though they may make u feel that way while ur using them, plus if i recall correctly they are harsh as hell on the liver.
 
yes, work your way up, don't just take the whole thing. I think the best way to take it is break it up into 3 if u can, and take a piece every 2 or 3 hours, you'll have such a great day, well minus the nausia and itching!!!
 
I HAD A BOTTLE OF THE 40 MGS BEFORE THEY WERE GREAT NO ITCHING I DON'T REMEBER IF I GOT NUASEA FROM THEM MAYBE WHEN I CLEANED UP I DID. I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE I DON'T GO THROUGH WITHDRAWLS AGAIN BY GETTING ADDICTED EVERYTHING IN MODERATION WIDELAT.... DON'T TAKE THEM EVERYDAY.
 
OH YEAH AND NOBODY IS GETTING THERE HANDS ON MY COTTONS SO DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT FEDS. I'M NOT A DRUG DEALER IM A DRUG BUYER.
 
PatsFan34 said:
yes, work your way up, don't just take the whole thing. I think the best way to take it is break it up into 3 if u can, and take a piece every 2 or 3 hours, you'll have such a great day, well minus the nausia and itching!!!
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yeah.. good idea.. break it up!!!

You moron.. the "cotin" part of oxycotin is time released. If he breakes it up.. he gets 80mg or more at once. That is how kids die.

WIDELAT.. you gotta take the whole thing. If you break it up.. you are taking a huge risk.
 
dballer is right, the time release is killed by crushing or breaking, i would crush it into powder and insulfate small lines to keep the desired feeling!!!
 
NOT IF I BREAK IT IN HALF AND ONLY TAKE HALF THAT IS WHAT HE IS SAYING I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH THE 40'S THE WAY IT HITS YOU SUPER FAST IS IF YOU CRUSH IT UP ALMOST INTO A POWDER AND TAKE IT ALL GETS INTO YOUR BLOODSTREAM SUPER FAST. I AM REALLY EXPERIENCED WITH DIFFRENT PAIN KILLERS AND OPIETS ONLY REC DRUGS I TAKE.
 
dballer said:


yeah.. good idea.. break it up!!!

You moron.. the "cotin" part of oxycotin is time released. If he breakes it up.. he gets 80mg or more at once. That is how kids die.

WIDELAT.. you gotta take the whole thing. If you break it up.. you are taking a huge risk.
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Hey know all and tell all of drug use. Go back and read my statement more clearly. I didn't say break it up into 3 and take all 3 pieces. I said break it up into 3 and take a piece every 2 or 3 hours. Insert foot in mouth now stupid!!!
 
PatsFan34 said:


Hey know all and tell all of drug use. Go back and read my statement more clearly. I didn't say break it up into 3 and take all 3 pieces. I said break it up into 3 and take a piece every 2 or 3 hours. Insert foot in mouth now stupid!!!
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fuck you asshole.. go back and read mine.. by breaking that pill AT ALLL it destroys it's "time release" capabiliyies. If you do not believe me.. I will make you a bet on it.. how does that sound Mr. Trapper John M.D.???
 
dballer said:


fuck you asshole.. go back and read mine.. by breaking that pill AT ALLL it destroys it's "time release" capabiliyies. If you do not believe me.. I will make you a bet on it.. how does that sound Mr. Trapper John M.D.???
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Your hopeless!!! I know that breaking it up takes the time release away. But he's not gonna take the fucking whole 80 mg's at once. He said he's only taken 40's before. You don't just go from taking 40 to 80's guy, that's how people die. So, yes, you are right about if u break it up, then it takes away it's "time release" capabilities!!! but your are wrong to advise him to take the whole thing. Carry on now chum!!!
 
here is a picture of ALL diffrent kinds of oxycontins... (notice none of them are scored!!)

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here is the picture of a scored oxycodone pill. (Notice it is not "contin")

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the score.. or line going through the pill is where you break the pill if it is too strong. Oxycontin does not have that. WHY???

So who is giving who the WRONG information???
 
SO WHAT DO I DO GUYS YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED TAKE THE WHOLE THING OR SPLIT IT UP, I THOUGHT I KNEW BUT NOW I'M CONFUSED.
 
WIDELAT said:
SO WHAT DO I DO GUYS YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED TAKE THE WHOLE THING OR SPLIT IT UP, I THOUGHT I KNEW BUT NOW I'M CONFUSED.
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well you can listen to that other guy....

or you can listen to someone with 8 years experience with pain medication.

If.. you take the whole thing. You will not OD.. you will be riding a huge nice buzz.

If.. you break it. You COULD die.

it is up to you.
 
bro, your off in you own little world over there. i agree with you that once you break it up, there's no more "time release" capabilities. but once your stomach disgests the outside cover of an 80 mg oxy, that's it, your gonna get all 80 mg's in one shot. if u break it up into a couple pieces, and take those pieces through-out the day, then it'll last alot longer. to advise widelat to take this thing at once, when he's only take 40's before is not good advice IMO!!!
 
PatsFan34 said:
bro, your off in you own little world over there. i agree with you that once you break it up, there's no more "time release" capabilities. but once your stomach disgests the outside cover of an 80 mg oxy, that's it, your gonna get all 80 mg's in one shot. if u break it up into a couple pieces, and take those pieces through-out the day, then it'll last alot longer. to advise widelat to take this thing at once, when he's only take 40's before is not good advice IMO!!!
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So.. are you telling me.. that YOU somehow believe that the "time release" has somthing to do with that coating on the pill???

If in fact you do believe that.. you have ALOT of learning to do.


Widelat.. I was on these from the time they came out up until about 1-1/2 years ago. My mother was the lead tech for the pain management company who studied this drug for 4 years before the FDA approved it.

please PatFan... tell me what you know about this drug.. I mean what do you really know.. other than the skin of the pill holds the magic "time release"?? hahahhahahaa
 
PatsFan34 said:
bro, your off in you own little world over there. i agree with you that once you break it up, there's no more "time release" capabilities. but once your stomach disgests the outside cover of an 80 mg oxy, that's it, your gonna get all 80 mg's in one shot. if u break it up into a couple pieces, and take those pieces through-out the day, then it'll last alot longer. to advise widelat to take this thing at once, when he's only take 40's before is not good advice IMO!!!
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did you read this part of that article... "If you split the coating, you receive the full dose in one shot. "?????

did you miss that part? So advising WIDELAT what would be wrong hoss???
 
Do u have a problem understanding the english language??? I'm not telling him to break it up into pieces and then take all those pieces at once. WHAT I AM SAYING IS TO BREAK IT UP AND TAKE ON PIECE OF IT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. Man your dense. Advising him to take a whole OXY 80 when he's only taken 40's before is not a good idea. Bottom line what i'm trying to say is. Don't take the whole thing, he's only taken 40's before. I understand that once it's broken up and taken all at once, then bamm, here comes the oxy train!!! Holy!!!
 
PatsFan34 said:
Do u have a problem understanding the english language??? I'm not telling him to break it up into pieces and then take all those pieces at once. WHAT I AM SAYING IS TO BREAK IT UP AND TAKE ON PIECE OF IT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. Man your dense. Advising him to take a whole OXY 80 when he's only taken 40's before is not a good idea. Bottom line what i'm trying to say is. Don't take the whole thing, he's only taken 40's before. I understand that once it's broken up and taken all at once, then bamm, here comes the oxy train!!! Holy!!!
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what you are saying is complete garbage.

You are misinformed. You see PatFan.. if you break it into 4 pieces and only eat 1/4.. guess what? BAMN!!! you get 80mg all at once!!! maybe more. Here is why and how.....

Lets think about this because it is common sense. Imagine the size of that pill. Now imagine how every hour or so it releases 80mg of oxycodone into the bloodstream... now imagine how many actual mg's of that drug are in one pill?? There must be more than 80mg total right??.. I mean if it gonna give you 80mg every hour for 12 hours... right??

Does this make any sense to you.. or does it still sound dense?
 
DBALLER YOU HAVE NEVER STEERED ME WRONG AND HELL I WOULD PROBABLY TAKE A WHOLE ONE NO MATTER WHAT ANYWAY, THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE OXY COIN.
 
I can't believe you guys are messing with these...they seem evil to me.

And check out that 160mg pill...i don't even want to imagine what that's designed for.
 
dballer, r u trying to tell me that if i break up an 80 into 4 pieces and take that 1/4 piece, it still has 80 mg's in it!! then how can it be 80mgs and not 320mgs. You make no sense bro, none. And by the way, if u go and read the thread that naturally anabolic posted, you'll clearly see that these pills are time released by the coating on the pill, threw digestion of the stomach!
 
PatsFan34 said:
dballer, r u trying to tell me that if i break up an 80 into 4 pieces and take that 1/4 piece, it still has 80 mg's in it!! then how can it be 80mgs and not 320mgs. You make no sense bro, none. And by the way, if u go and read the thread that naturally anabolic posted, you'll clearly see that these pills are time released by the coating on the pill, threw digestion of the stomach!
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You... have proved here... that you have the IQ of pig shit.

I feel it beneath me to discuss this matter with you anymore.

I tried to spell it out for you in easy to understand words.. I tried to explain it to you like a child. Yet you still do not understand.

you go break them up and eat them. Please do it before you spawn.
 
WHAT DBALLER IS SAYING IS THAT BY THEM BEING CALLED 80 MGS AND THEM BEING TIMED RELEASED IS THAT 80 MGS ARE TIMED RELEASED INTO YOUR BODY THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO IF YOU GOT THE FULL STRENGTH OF A WHOLE PILL AT ONCE THEN YES YOU WOULD GET 320 MGS DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE??
 
WIDELAT said:
WHAT DBALLER IS SAYING IS THAT BY THEM BEING CALLED 80 MGS AND THEM BEING TIMED RELEASED IS THAT 80 MGS ARE TIMED RELEASED INTO YOUR BODY THROUGHOUT THE DAY SO IF YOU GOT THE FULL STRENGTH OF A WHOLE PILL AT ONCE THEN YES YOU WOULD GET 320 MGS DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE??
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WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!
 
to be honest, i'm stunned!!! if u think cause a pill is time released that you get 80mg's every hour from one pill is absurb. i'm glad this is beanth you to go on with this, cause to be frank, you are sadly mistaken. so now your telling me that and 80 mg OXY has 920 mgs in it, ya-ok!!!
 
well dballer and patsfan, you both are right on some things. First off, the coating on the pill is useless, it has NO use other than easier passage down the throat. The time release is not 80mg ever hour or every 12 hours, there is only 80 total MG's of oxycodone in the 80mg OC. not 320 or 920 or whatever. The 80mg of oxycodone is released over an average of 12 hours, 320mg of oxycodone in your system at any point in 12 hours and you'll be dead trust me. The best thing you can do bro is to take the damn pill like it is, don't break it or alter in any way. But if you decide to break it into four pieces you WILL NOT have 4 80mg pieces of oxy. And if anyone still thinks there are over 900mgs of Oxycodone in one pill, weigh the damn thing, its not anywhere close to a gram total weight!!
 
I better go tell the folks at the pain clinic!!! They have been prescribing it wrong!!!
 
thank you fine sir, but not that dballer has totally pissed me off, i called CVS pharmacy and talked to the phamacist. He told me exact, word for fucking word, what i've said all day.

They are time released by the coating on the pill, as the coating is disolved, the ingredients are released!!

They only contain 80 mg's. That's it, otherwise they be dosed as 320 or 920, whatever the fuck dballer said.

SO TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. IF U BREAK IT UP INTO A COUPLE PIECES, AND JUST TAKE ONE PIECE EVERY COUPLE HOURS, YOU'LL GET A GOOD DOSAGE OF ABOUT 20-25 MG'S RIGHT QUICK. NO WAITING FOR THE TIME RELEASE, NOTHING!!!

Thank you, you've all been a wonderful audience, I'll be signing autograph's after the show!!!

thanks for your input DRRman
 
I'm sorry dballer, you are a cool and smart guy but you are wrong here.

IF a pill says 80 mg on it, that means it has 80 mg pf whatever active substance in it. No ifs, and, or buts.

80 mg means that the full 80 mg are slowly released throughout the day.

IF you do not believe me, check this out

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/oxycontin.htm

Note the part that says "The tablet strengths describe the amount of oxycodone per tablet as the hydrochloride salt."

It looks like one 80 mg tablet is not enough to put you in a coma. The 160 mg tablet is what you have to be careful with. And it also looks like peak plasma concentrations are higher if eaten with a high-fat meal so you might want to do that to maximize bang for your buck Widelat.

JC
 
well pats fan, i hate to tell you bro, but the pharmacists don't really know shit about medicine, they count pills bro, the coating IS NOT a time release and i don't care what CVS bullshit technician says it is.
 
DRRman said:
well pats fan, i hate to tell you bro, but the pharmacists don't really know shit about medicine, they count pills bro, the coating IS NOT a time release and i don't care what CVS bullshit technician says it is.
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Alright, I don't want to fight with everyone today, but goddam you guys are relentless!!! I didn't talk to the technician, it was the pharmacist!!! And if u go read the thread the naturally anabolic posted at the top of page 2, paragraph 7 clearing states that "A special coating starts to dissolve in the stomach and then continues to release the drug for the next 12 hours." If I'm still wrong then my apologies!! But I'm no dummy. I graduated college with a B.S. in biology. I'm certain that the coating on the pill is how the time release process is monitored!!!
 
Well then...

It's time release, not time DELAYED, which means you don't get 80mg as soon as the coating is dissolved.

THUS, if you break it in half, for a 40mg/40mg split, and the time release mechanism has been destroyed, you get 40mg right off the bat.

If WIDELAT popped a 40mg WHOLE pill before, TIME RELEASED, he didn't get 40mg at once, he got it spread out during a 12hr period.

So in any case, 1/2 of an 80mg pill is more potent that 1 40mg pill.

Btw, how many percs = 1 40mg oxy?
 
nikolai_bolkov said:
Well then...

It's time release, not time DELAYED, which means you don't get 80mg as soon as the coating is dissolved.

THUS, if you break it in half, for a 40mg/40mg split, and the time release mechanism has been destroyed, you get 40mg right off the bat.

If WIDELAT popped a 40mg WHOLE pill before, TIME RELEASED, he didn't get 40mg at once, he got it spread out during a 12hr period.

So in any case, 1/2 of an 80mg pill is more potent that 1 40mg pill.

Btw, how many percs = 1 40mg oxy?
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Hip Hip Hooray...Hip Hip Hooray. Thank god someone gets it!!!
I would say you'd have to take about 6 perc's to match the feeling of one 40mg oxy..IMO
 
nikolai_bolkov said:
Well then...

It's time release, not time DELAYED, which means you don't get 80mg as soon as the coating is dissolved.

THUS, if you break it in half, for a 40mg/40mg split, and the time release mechanism has been destroyed, you get 40mg right off the bat.

If WIDELAT popped a 40mg WHOLE pill before, TIME RELEASED, he didn't get 40mg at once, he got it spread out during a 12hr period.

So in any case, 1/2 of an 80mg pill is more potent that 1 40mg pill.

Btw, how many percs = 1 40mg oxy?
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if this is the case... why are the pills not scored??
 
i didn't mean to sound like an ass patsfan, im just positive through my drug usage and my knowledge that the coating is uselss, but then again i could be wrong. anyways, i sent some karma to you guys, good discussion.
 
nikolai_bolkov said:
Well then...

It's time release, not time DELAYED, which means you don't get 80mg as soon as the coating is dissolved.

THUS, if you break it in half, for a 40mg/40mg split, and the time release mechanism has been destroyed, you get 40mg right off the bat.

If WIDELAT popped a 40mg WHOLE pill before, TIME RELEASED, he didn't get 40mg at once, he got it spread out during a 12hr period.

So in any case, 1/2 of an 80mg pill is more potent that 1 40mg pill.

Btw, how many percs = 1 40mg oxy?
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Check the link that I posted. Go to the Dosage and Indications tab. There is a table there outlining the relative strengths of different opioids.

I think mg for mg Percocet is about 1/10 as strong as Oxycodone.

JC
 
DRRman said:
i didn't mean to sound like an ass patsfan, im just positive through my drug usage and my knowledge that the coating is uselss, but then again i could be wrong. anyways, i sent some karma to you guys, good discussion.
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bro, if i came off as a dick, my apoligies!!! i just have a headache for this discussion now!!! at any rate, i agree with u to just crush the fucker up and sniff sniff sniff away, not to much of course!!!
 
dballer said:


if this is the case... why are the pills not scored??
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Probably because you are not supposed to break them in half, since they are time-released.

Actually, what has the scoring of the pill have to do with anything I said??
 
nikolai_bolkov said:


Probably because you are not supposed to break them in half, since they are time-released.

Actually, what has the scoring of the pill have to do with anything I said??
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and this kid calls me a fucking asshole???
 
People from both sides have already state from reference materials that once you break the coating, the time-release properties are destroyed. If it wasn't the coating that was making it time-released, you could split it into sections and each section would be time released, which, evidently is not the case.

It's probably not scored because it's manufactured in a variety of sizes, so the doctor would prescribe the appropriate size, there would be no need to split it. (and splitting the coating negates the time-release effect)

Somebody correct this logic if you see a flaw...
 
THeMaCHinE said:
People from both sides have already state from reference materials that once you break the coating, the time-release properties are destroyed. If it wasn't the coating that was making it time-released, you could split it into sections and each section would be time released, which, evidently is not the case.

It's probably not scored because it's manufactured in a variety of sizes, so the doctor would prescribe the appropriate size, there would be no need to split it. (and splitting the coating negates the time-release effect)

Somebody correct this logic if you see a flaw...
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Ahhh, you get an A+ Yo bro, i changed my handle to this one. I used to be under Troybday!!! How's the Delt's holding up???
 
THeMaCHinE said:

Somebody correct this logic if you see a flaw...
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I have to admit, I don't really know anything about the drug -- just looking at the information here and thinking about it. Is there some way to design the structure within the pill in a time released fashion, which necessitates it staying whole? Haven't heard of anything like this before, but it could exist (?) I guess; just seems like it's the coating as that would jibe with the given warnings about splitting the coating and would seem to be a simpler way to make something time release... I could be way off base though.


Messing around with them at all seems like a waste anyway.
 
dballer said:
split them.. crush them snort them. I could give a fuck less.
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You sure did give a fuck when you were tring to tell me how fucking smart your are though!!! I normally wouldn't let something like your bullshit get to me. But your arogant and cocky replies got under my skin. So in your own words, "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE"!!!

Go PATS
 
PatsFan34 said:


Ahhh, you get an A+ Yo bro, i changed my handle to this one. I used to be under Troybday!!! How's the Delt's holding up???
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Delt is fine, chalk it up to a less-than-steady injection hand (trying to aspirate); I had the same thing happen 2 weeks later on my left glue (after a successful right glute shot); I've found with this stuff that if you don't shoot it precisely, you get inflamed -- probably the concentration (775 mg/ml). I've gone to quad shots and a larger gauge needle (23 instead of 25) and haven't had a problem...

Fuck, you had to be a Pats fan though huh? lol...
 
PatsFan34 said:


You sure did give a fuck when you were tring to tell me how fucking smart your are though!!! I normally wouldn't let something like your bullshit get to me. But your arogant and cocky replies got under my skin. So in your own words, "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE"!!!

Go PATS
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For you.. I pray for a sea of oxys.
 
THeMaCHinE said:


Delt is fine, chalk it up to a less-than-steady injection hand (trying to aspirate); I had the same thing happen 2 weeks later on my left glue (after a successful right glute shot); I've found with this stuff that if you don't shoot it precisely, you get inflamed -- probably the concentration (775 mg/ml). I've gone to quad shots and a larger gauge needle (23 instead of 25) and haven't had a problem...

Fuck, you had to be a Pats fan though huh? lol...
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Ya, i noticed when i switched to 25, shit gotta worse. Clogging mostly. I never had a problem with the 22's i was using, well besides them being 22's.

Who's your team, and don't say the JETS!!!
 
THeMaCHinE said:


I have to admit, I don't really know anything about the drug -- just looking at the information here and thinking about it. Is there some way to design the structure within the pill in a time released fashion, which necessitates it staying whole? Haven't heard of anything like this before, but it could exist (?) I guess; just seems like it's the coating as that would jibe with the given warnings about splitting the coating and would seem to be a simpler way to make something time release... I could be way off base though.


Messing around with them at all seems like a waste anyway.
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My friend with ADD used to use Dexedrine "spanules." They looked like Contac with a capsule with a clear coating with little balls inside. The balls were three different colors and the different colors represented different rates of absorption.

SO while it's still using coating (on the individual tiny balls), it still doesn't matter if you open the capsule and dump it down your throat, you are still getting time-released Dexedrine.

JC
 
PatsFan34 said:


Ya, i noticed when i switched to 25, shit gotta worse. Clogging mostly. I never had a problem with the 22's i was using, well besides them being 22's.

Who's your team, and don't say the JETS!!!
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Even heating the oil, I had a hard time getting it through, which in turn makes your hand shake, etc...

I'm not at liberty to say who my team is (because they really, really suck right now and have for a couple years and I don't want to put up with the abuse... lol...)
 
THeMaCHinE said:


Even heating the oil, I had a hard time getting it through, which in turn makes your hand shake, etc...

I'm not at liberty to say who my team is (because they really, really suck right now and have for a couple years and I don't want to put up with the abuse... lol...)
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Ya, being a Dallas Cowboys fan has been tough for quite a few I know. But hey, they had a good run in the early 90's!!! LOL
 
PatsFan34 said:


Ya, being a Dallas Cowboys fan has been tough for quite a few I know. But hey, they had a good run in the early 90's!!! LOL
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All right, no need to hit below the belt -- not a cowboys guy... :)
 
joncrane said:


My friend with ADD used to use Dexedrine "spanules." They looked like Contac with a capsule with a clear coating with little balls inside. The balls were three different colors and the different colors represented different rates of absorption.

SO while it's still using coating (on the individual tiny balls), it still doesn't matter if you open the capsule and dump it down your throat, you are still getting time-released Dexedrine.

JC
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Interesting -- that's about the only scenario I could see working and it wouldn't apply to a tablet... but I'm not a chemist by any means... to bad this isn't over on the anabolic board... spidey or nandi12 might know...

I don't think I'd split the tablet anyway, it'd be awfully hard to get an evenly divided dosage, and you'd lose the time-release properties (nobody's disagreeing about that)...
 
THeMaCHinE said:


and you'd lose the time-release properties (nobody's disagreeing about that)...
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That's right!!

Just for the record, a true fan always tells who they like, no matter how bad they are!!!!
 
THeMaCHinE said:


All right fucker, the Jags...
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Dude, I like them too. Not as much as my beautiful NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS, but I like Mark Brunell, he's my fantasty back up!!! I've always like him. He's got balls and he throws a good ball, when it's not INT'd of course!!! I also route for Tampa Bay and Tennesse. But fucking ehhh...GO PATS!!!
 
PatsFan34 said:


Dude, I like them too. Not as much as my beautiful NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS, but I like Mark Brunell, he's my fantasty back up!!! I've always like him. He's got balls and he throws a good ball, when it's not INT'd of course!!! I also route for Tampa Bay and Tennesse. But fucking ehhh...GO PATS!!!
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Brunell is one of the best out there...

On that note, I'm outta here for the weekend -- take it easy man...
 
naturally anabolic said:
.... uh oh... just be careful widelat ....pk's aren't the greatest thing in the world even though they may make u feel that way while ur using them, plus if i recall correctly they are harsh as hell on the liver.
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The harshness usually is attributed to the APAP that comes with most narcotic pks bro. Oxycontins are actually easier on the body(Liver) because it is absent of APAP. Pure Oxycodone.
 
Zerxes said:


The harshness usually is attributed to the APAP that comes with most narcotic pks bro. Oxycontins are actually easier on the body(Liver) because it is absent of APAP. Pure Oxycodone.
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I assume by APAP that you mean acetamenophen.

So are opioids as a class of drugs easy on the liver or is it just Oxycodone?

JC
 
joncrane said:


I assume by APAP that you mean acetamenophen.

So are opioids as a class of drugs easy on the liver or is it just Oxycodone?

JC
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Oxy itself isn't hard on the liver is what I'm saying. APAP(acetaminaphen) IS though, and once a person developes a tolorance to say PERCS(they have 375mgs of APAP in them), then you are talking about taking like 7 or 8 tabs at a time to get relief from pain, and therein lies the liver toxicity from the APAP. This is one of the reasons Perdue marketted a pure version of Oxycodone, so that a high level of Oxy could be administered w/o the toxic levels of APAP.
 
I have heard and believe that acetamenophen is added to most oral opiates for that exact reason(liver toxicity) to deter abuse. It doesn't work. ERs see loads of acetamenophen poisonings of opiate addicts every year.

JC
 
Zerxes said:


The harshness usually is attributed to the APAP that comes with most narcotic pks bro. Oxycontins are actually easier on the body(Liver) because it is absent of APAP. Pure Oxycodone.
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I will agree with him on this one. The actual drug oxycodone, hydrocodome, morphine, heroin, hydromorphone, opium is not dangerous. It is all in the way they are delivered.. and the amount. Constant use of any of these will not harm your body.. but what it will do is destroy the seretonin receptors in your brain.
 
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