8 weeks or 10?

[Bill W]

The last cycle I did was about 2 months ago and I dieted poorly (too few calories) after the cycle and that's my fault because I was lazy. I'm 6'1'' 228-230 lbs 12%-14%bf, 28 years old.

I was looking at doing sonmething like the following:

thai dbol weeks 1-4: 30/25/20/15mgs
organon sust 1-8 or 1-10: 750 mg for first 2, then 500 mg for remainder
ttokyo deca 1-8 or 1-10: 300 mg

Is this sensible. I want to stick with weekly injections because of work travel. Any other recommendations? Should I run the sust and deca for 8 or 10 weeks?

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

I would run both the sust and deca for 8 weeks. I don't see any reason to taper the d-bol either. Pick a dose like 25 or 30 mg ed and stick with it through out your course. Don't forget clomid.

 

[Bill W]

With the dbol at, say 25 mgs a day in weeks 1-4, is it necessary to do 750 mgs of sust in weeks 1 and 2, or can I get away with just the 500 mg throughout?

 

[GARAGE GORILLA]

Personally, I think for your second cycle you will be fine with the d-bol and running the sust at 500mg through out.

 

[Mike P.T.]

i agree with what garage says. for further note u could stretch this cycle out to 10-12 weeks if u wanted to.

 

[Bill W]

This isn't my second cycle, but it is my second cycle in about 3 years, and I wasn't all that organized before. I would miss dosages, not eat right, do oral-only cycles, drank booze and used rec drugs and never used clomid. I was just ignorant. Thanks god the info is available now.

 

[Mike P.T.]

This isn't my second cycle, but it is my second cycle in about 3 years, and I wasn't all that organized before. I would miss dosages, not eat right, do oral-only cycles, drank booze and used rec drugs and never used clomid. I was just ignorant. Thanks god the info is available now.

well now u know better. even though u should have known before whatever, its in the past. remember, when "on" a cycle you can't rely on the steroids to do all the work for you because thats just not the case if u want to get the most out of it. train hard and smart, eat right and enough, and get your rest and keep a good lifestyle and you will grow at your best. good luck.

 

[Bill W]

I quite drinking almost 2 years ago, and my workouts, rest and diet have been much better since then. In my opinion, that decision was the best anabolic I've ever taken.

 

[Mike P.T.]

I quite drinking almost 2 years ago, and my workouts, rest and diet have been much better since then. In my opinion, that decision was the best anabolic I've ever taken.

good for you bro

 

[ragin']

bill, i agree w/ garage in that tapering the d-bol isn't neccessary. do 25-30mg/ed for 4wks. i do think you should run the sust for 8wks but keep the deca going a 300mg/wk for the full 10. i think you'll get more out of your cycle doing it that way at your size.

 

[Bill W]

Thanks guys. Its great to get advice like this.

 

[Bill W]

Sorry, quick question: would running the deca an extra 2 weeks without the test create bad sexual side effects?

 

[ragin']

probably not, cyp is a relatively slow-acting ester, which means it takes a while to get out of your system. as long as you dont increase the deca doses for the remaining two weeks, i think you'll be fine.

 

[Mike P.T.]

probably not, cyp is a relatively slow-acting ester, which means it takes a while to get out of your system. as long as you dont increase the deca doses for the remaining two weeks, i think you'll be fine.

he may be ok with this but just to be on the safe side i would run them equally. maybe even opposite of what u suggested. deca going for 8 weeks with cyp. at 10. deca stays in the system active for 3-4 weeks while cyp only for about 2 weeks at the most.