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8 Weeks into my Test E/EQ cycle...

humble

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This is my first cycle, I am doing;

500mg Test E 14weeks
600mg EQ 14weeks
AIFM; One pump, twice daily.
Nolvadex on hand.
PCT will include; Continued use of AIFM, clomid, nolvadex, HCG up to 4 weeks.

I am up to 289 lbs, 6'5-6'6, 9% Body Fat.

Strength is outta the roof, mentality is controllable, sex drive is not.

I consume 4 mass calorie drinks a day (900 calories/shake, 50g Protien/ shake), 4 Protien shakes (40 grams protien/shake), and three meals consisting of steak, chicken, and beer.
 
Oh and another thing, wanna give props to Drrman for taking me under his wing, and Gautho for being a stand up guy.
 
humble said:
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I am up to 289 lbs, 6'5-6'6, 9% Body Fat.

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Youre fucking huge.

congrats on your first run going so well thus far. Good luck with the rest of the run. Your EQ is really just now getting up to speed. Your next 6 weeks should be nice
:coffee:
 
immortalis said:
Youre fucking huge.

congrats on your first run going so well thus far. Good luck with the rest of the run. Your EQ is really just now getting up to speed. Your next 6 weeks should be nice
:coffee:

Appreciate the encouragement bro.
 
solidspine said:
I am up to 289 lbs, 6'5-6'6, 9% Body Fat.I am up to 289 lbs, 6'5-6'6, 9% Body Fat.


If you are under 30 you should start thinking about the Mr O contest in about 4 years.

U serious (lol)? Bro I am betting I will hit 300lbs or close to it within 5 weeks, lol.

I have lifted seriously (naturally) for the past 7-8 yrs and decided that my weight and strength have leveled off and just decided to come to the darkside a few months ago.
 
HOLY SHIT!

25 yrs old, 289 pounds at 9% ????!!!!

Ive never heard of a guy that age, at that size! That's insane!

GENETIC MONSTER MACHINE
 
R1 Psycho said:
HOLY SHIT!

25 yrs old, 289 pounds at 9% ????!!!!

Ive never heard of a guy that age, at that size! That's insane!

GENETIC MONSTER MACHINE

I have taken a few pics, I will try posting in just a few minutes, only catch is, I have very fair skin, and due to previous melanomas, I can not tan, so cuts dont fair as well, but thats okay with me.
 
humble said:
I have taken a few pics, I will try posting in just a few minutes, only catch is, I have very fair skin, and due to previous melanomas, I can not tan, so cuts dont fair as well, but thats okay with me.
oh, i love it....IOW: "these pics will show clearly that i am not 9% BF." not busting your balls, bro, but...wait, no i am busting your balls. gotta watch your boasts - people are inclined to want proof.

i am also 6'6"...heaviest i ever got was 282, and i felt WAY too big (mostly from all that water)...blood pressure didnt appreciate all that weight, either. i was probably 15% BF then, back down to 12-13% now and i feel alot better, but that's me. you might have a bigger frame that handles that weight better. there are some big fuckin doods in this world.

32 pounds in 2 months? eh....maybe we believe you, but probably not. lotta bullshitters around here. but if you like the results of the cycle, that's all that counts.
 
thebrakes said:
oh, i love it....IOW: "these pics will show clearly that i am not 9% BF." not busting your balls, bro, but...wait, no i am busting your balls. gotta watch your boasts - people are inclined to want proof.

i am also 6'6"...heaviest i ever got was 282, and i felt WAY too big (mostly from all that water)...blood pressure didnt appreciate all that weight, either. i was probably 15% BF then, back down to 12-13% now and i feel alot better, but that's me. you might have a bigger frame that handles that weight better. there are some big fuckin doods in this world.

32 pounds in 2 months? eh....maybe we believe you, but probably not. lotta bullshitters around here. but if you like the results of the cycle, that's all that counts.

I understand your criticism. Love the results, and can't wait to see what will happen when my test is bumpt to 750mg with 600mg deca along with some winny next cycle.
 
I have pretty thick skin, so let me have it.

As of this morning, chest measured 52 1/2 inches, arms 19 1/2 (left) 19 (right).


pics edited upon request
 
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you are a very big guy and have a great base but you are far from 9% bf my brotha. still have a great physique, i expected bigger chest and arms. keep up the good work you look good but def are not that bf at that weight.
 
lets see the legs/calves
I'm 6'5" and about 265 right now and my upper body is similar to yours but i haven't been in the gym nearly as often and off gear for months now. Bfat is higher than yours but my legs/calves are still pretty big.
 
bruce410 said:
you are a very big guy and have a great base but you are far from 9% bf my brotha. still have a great physique, i expected bigger chest and arms. keep up the good work you look good but def are not that bf at that weight.

A buddy at the gym did the three pinch caliper bf test, and that is what it revealed. If you are at 9% then I can step back and easily say that I am not, you look excellent, good definition, if not great.

Bruce, how far off is it then?
 
DBBT said:
lets see the legs/calves
I'm 6'5" and about 265 right now and my upper body is similar to yours but i haven't been in the gym nearly as often and off gear for months now. Bfat is higher than yours but my legs/calves are still pretty big.

Bro, what do your thighs and calves measure at?

Thighs 29 inchs
Calves 19 1/4
 
Humble, I'd give my left nut to be your size! Best of luck bro, keep us informed on your progress.
 
boz44 said:
Humble, I'd give my left nut to be your size! Best of luck bro, keep us informed on your progress.

Boz, I appreciate your encouragement. My goal is to reach 300lbs and stay lean as possible.
 
humble said:
Oh and another thing, wanna give props to Drrman for taking me under his wing, and Gautho for being a stand up guy.
Thanks humble. Keep up the good work. Remember everyone, this is his first run with juice, so he doesn't have that chemical look yet. But, wait till he gets it. Humble, call on me anytime for anything bro. I'd like to be a part of helping another fellow Cath Lab RN. Go for that Mario Williams look, the #1 overall NFL draft pick.
 
That looks fairly close to my physique: I'm 6'5"-6'6" and right at 260 (6 weeks into cycle, started at 246). My BF is at around 16% now. Your weight sounds high unless you are carrying ALOT more in the legs than I am.
You are looking good though! I'm pm'ing you a pic of me so you can compare someone almost exactly your height. In some ways I seem leaner than you but with a much higher bf%. I would bet your bf is closer to 15%.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/94bubf/100_0697.jpg
 
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medical said:
That looks fairly close to my physique: I'm 6'5"-6'6" and right at 260 (6 weeks into cycle, started at 246). My BF is at around 16% now. Your weight sounds high unless you are carrying ALOT more in the legs than I am.
You are looking good though! I'm pm'ing you a pic of me so you can compare someone almost exactly your height. In some ways I seem leaner than you but with a much higher bf%. I would bet your bf is closer to 15%.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/94bubf/100_0697.jpg

We even have the same skin complextion, lol. Looking good.
 
gautho said:
Thanks humble. Keep up the good work. Remember everyone, this is his first run with juice, so he doesn't have that chemical look yet. But, wait till he gets it. Humble, call on me anytime for anything bro. I'd like to be a part of helping another fellow Cath Lab RN. Go for that Mario Williams look, the #1 overall NFL draft pick.

Hey bro, what bf % are you in your avator?
 
Humble,


It great seeing those pics, you’re a

David by Michelangelo in the works.

You have an excellent first cycle,


excellent anti-e’s and planned pct.


PM

gautho, for more critical advice.


Training, diet, rest, water, supplements, will all be second nature soon enough.


Gear only helps,


training, diet and rest make it work.


Good job,



&




thank

Mother Humble and Father Humble

and God for fantastic genetics.


Keep us posted.
 
solidspine said:
Humble,


It great seeing those pics, you’re a

David by Michelangelo in the works.

You have an excellent first cycle,


excellent anti-e’s and planned pct.


PM

gautho, for more critical advice.


Training, diet, rest, water, supplements, will all be second nature soon enough.


Gear only helps,


training, diet and rest make it work.


Good job,



&




thank

Mother Humble and Father Humble

and God for fantastic genetics.


Keep us posted.

Solid advice bro, thank you.
 
humble said:
Hey bro, what bf % are you in your avator?
Honestly, i don't check it. I go by what my trainer and i see in the mirror. We are our own worse critic.
 
humble said:
We even have the same skin complextion, lol. Looking good.
Yep....you definitely have more mass through the lats and traps than me.....I bet our frames are almost identical. Time for a cutting cycle for you.
 
medical said:
Yep....you definitely have more mass through the lats and traps than me.....I bet our frames are almost identical. Time for a cutting cycle for you.

Whats the most you have ever weighed?
 
humble, for being new to the anabolic game you are doing very well. you werent kidding about the casper-esque complexion :)

i cant see 290# on you. i guess you are just dense. i look a whole shit-ton bigger than you @ 265# but that may just be because my legs are pathetic and i carry it all up top. if you have 19 1/4" calves then you are certainly proportioned differently/better.

with a few years of juicing and eating you could be one scary MFer. i'll throw some pics up here in a bit @ different weights for comparison if u want.

i'd like to see a bigger chest and more delt, but you have good arms and midsection.
 
humble said:
Whats the most you have ever weighed?
About 300-310 at 20-22% bf. I'm 42 yo and weighed that when I was about 30. Being at my optimum weight during that phase I was about 280#. Trust me.....your joints will thank you if you don't go that high! You are very smooth right now.....concentrate on getting cut before you go much bigger than you are now. You look to me like you would be ripped at about 270 right now. But at 25 your genetic potential is just starting to be realized....if you are the same genotype as me (and our shared frame size and skin tone leads me to believe that we share a ton of genetics....including the skin cancer and some similar facial structure) then you will peak at about 32. Your goal should be to be as huge as you can be, and as lean as you can be at that age. From then on it will be a battle of bodyfat vs musclemass. Good luck!
 
thebrakes said:
humble, for being new to the anabolic game you are doing very well. you werent kidding about the casper-esque complexion :)

i cant see 290# on you. i guess you are just dense. i look a whole shit-ton bigger than you @ 265# but that may just be because my legs are pathetic and i carry it all up top. if you have 19 1/4" calves then you are certainly proportioned differently/better.

with a few years of juicing and eating you could be one scary MFer. i'll throw some pics up here in a bit @ different weights for comparison if u want.

i'd like to see a bigger chest and more delt, but you have good arms and midsection.

Thank you. Alot of people on the here cant see the weight on me, and I understand. If I could tan, you would be able to see the density better i believe, or maybe I am just full of crap and I am lying to everyone to make myself feel better, lol.

Post some pics, I would like to see them. I agree with you, my chest and delts need alot more attention.
 
medical said:
About 300-310 at 20-22% bf. I'm 42 yo and weighed that when I was about 30. Being at my optimum weight during that phase I was about 280#. Trust me.....your joints will thank you if you don't go that high! You are very smooth right now.....concentrate on getting cut before you go much bigger than you are now. You look to me like you would be ripped at about 270 right now. But at 25 your genetic potential is just starting to be realized....if you are the same genotype as me (and our shared frame size and skin tone leads me to believe that we share a ton of genetics....including the skin cancer and some similar facial structure) then you will peak at about 32. Your goal should be to be as huge as you can be, and as lean as you can be at that age. From then on it will be a battle of bodyfat vs musclemass. Good luck!

Medical, I am not sure why you have so much red, but your advise to me is always welcome.
It is interesting to meet another bb with similar stats
 
humble said:
Medical, I am not sure why you have so much red, but your advise to me is always welcome.
It is interesting to meet another bb with similar stats
I have red because I asked for it and encouraged it as part of an experiment......that and I can also be a huge asshole at times. I really don't pay attention to karma that much......I'm here to learn. Glad you could glean something from an old man like me! Best of luck! I'll be watching your progress....and sharing mine! I'm just back in the game after a 12 year layoff.....I have lifted again for 2 years and started to cycle again in august. I got down to 212# (marathon running weight) when I was 34 yo and then up to a very bloated and fat 285# 2 years ago before I started lifting/running again. I'm also very interested in guys with my basic genotype.
 
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humble said:
A buddy at the gym did the three pinch caliper bf test, and that is what it revealed. If you are at 9% then I can step back and easily say that I am not, you look excellent, good definition, if not great.

Bruce, how far off is it then?
well i tested at 6.5 hydro static at loyola, i'm going to do it again in a bod pod. they have it at the gym i workout for free with joining. put it this way, 4%bf is bber on stage and some extreme athletes. anyone who claims 3% is full of shit or did a caliper test and is real skinny. i come up as 1.5bf on a caliper. like gautho says the mirror is your best bet. i always said 6-9% and i was right in the middle. like i said you have an excellent build to be a bber. keep it up and being that is your first cycle man i think you have great things ahead of you. always remember Terrell Owens might be an ass, but he has the best build in sports imo, he says he is 9% in sports illustrated. hydro measuring is plus or minus 3%, so i bet i'm right around there as he is shredded even more than i am. also he could be off. use the mirror keep lifiting, its great you posted pics, most dudes are too afraid to. you'll get nothing but encouragement around here with a base like that brotha
 
humble said:
Medical, I am not sure why you have so much red, but your advise to me is always welcome.
It is interesting to meet another bb with similar stats

You look awesome man! Shit, get some Melanotan II, darken up, and I"ll bet you'll look 5% leaner.. Keep up the good work! I can't wait to see your delts after this cycle, you're going to look like Mariusz Pudzianowski..

T-Matt
 
agreed on the tanning. its amazing how much being light makes a difference. for sure look awesome in no way do i want to come off like a prick. just when you are 9% you are gonna be a mutant lol.
 
bruce410 said:
agreed on the tanning. its amazing how much being light makes a difference. for sure look awesome in no way do i want to come off like a prick. just when you are 9% you are gonna be a mutant lol.

Yeah, I've got my MT-II on the way.. When I hit sub 10% I'm never going to wear a shirt...

I think he's around 12%..

T-Matt
 
bruce410 said:
what is the deal with that shit, any sides. how does it work

IMO it is going to be one of the biggest selling Skin Care aids AND Erectile Dysfunction drugs out there.. Some people have complained of being light headed, however, I know several people who have taken it and have no experienced such feelings.

The erections, from what I've been told are similar to that of Cialis or Viagra. One of my bodies also mentioned that it has an effect similar to Oxycalm.

I am going to be giving it a run and I will post plenty of before and after pictures as well as a daily log. :)



This is copied and pasted from melanotan.org

Melanotan and melanotan II are both analogs of the peptide hormone alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) that tend to induce skin tanning. Unlike melanotan though, melanotan II has the additional effect of increasing libido.

Both drugs were developed at the University of Arizona. Researchers there knew that one of the best defenses against skin cancer was a natural tan which has been slowly developed over weeks. They hypothesized that an effective way to reduce skin cancer rates in people would be to induce the body's natural tanning system to produce a protective tan prior to UV exposure. They knew the body's naturally occurring hormone alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) caused melanogenesis, a process by which the skin's tanning cells (melanocytes) produce the skin's tanning pigment (melanin). With that knowledge they tested to see if administering this hormone to the body directly could be an effective method to cause sunless tanning. What they found was that while it appeared to work, natural alpha-MSH had too short a half life in the body to be practical as a therapeutic drug. So they decided to try and find a more potent and stable alternative, one that would be more practical.

After synthesizing and screening hundreds of molecules, the researchers headed by Dr. Victor Hruby, found a peptide that after trials and testing seemed to not only be safe but also approximately 1,000 times more potent than natural α-MSH. They dubbed this new peptide Melanotan. Since their discovery, numerous studies dating back to the mid-1980s have shown no obvious toxic effects of Melanotan. Because skin cancer (melanoma) today is a major health concern, Melanotan is expected to be used as a drug to combat it. Melanotan will do this by stimulating the body's natural tanning mechanism to create a tan without first needing exposure to harmful levels of UV radiation. This in turn will reduce the potential for skin damage that can eventually lead to skin cancer.

Melanotan II

Melanotan II has aphrodisiac properties. It is a cyclic lactam analog of alpha-MSH with the amino acid sequence Ac-Nle-cyclo[Asp-His-D-Phe-Arg-Trp-Lys]-NH2. Palatin Technologies of New Jersey has developed another hormone targeted towards Sexual dysfunction based upon melanontan II called bremelanotide (formerly called PT-141 by Palatin). Bremelanotide is a metabolite of melanotan II that lacks the C-terminal amide function. Bremelanotide is currently in clinical trials to treat erectile dysfunction and sexual arousal disorder.


T-Matt
 
bruce410 said:
well i tested at 6.5 hydro static at loyola, i'm going to do it again in a bod pod. they have it at the gym i workout for free with joining. put it this way, 4%bf is bber on stage and some extreme athletes. anyone who claims 3% is full of shit or did a caliper test and is real skinny. i come up as 1.5bf on a caliper. like gautho says the mirror is your best bet. i always said 6-9% and i was right in the middle. like i said you have an excellent build to be a bber. keep it up and being that is your first cycle man i think you have great things ahead of you. always remember Terrell Owens might be an ass, but he has the best build in sports imo, he says he is 9% in sports illustrated. hydro measuring is plus or minus 3%, so i bet i'm right around there as he is shredded even more than i am. also he could be off. use the mirror keep lifiting, its great you posted pics, most dudes are too afraid to. you'll get nothing but encouragement around here with a base like that brotha

I figured you were around 6% or so, one of the leanest BB I have seen on this board.

Bruce, I appreciate the advice and encouragement, I don't get alot of that out in the real world, just ugly looks and snickering since I have been gaining size, so your words are taken as a great compliment.

Your name on this board is solid, and I can see why.
 
T-Matt said:
You look awesome man! Shit, get some Melanotan II, darken up, and I"ll bet you'll look 5% leaner.. Keep up the good work! I can't wait to see your delts after this cycle, you're going to look like Mariusz Pudzianowski..

T-Matt

Looking into that now, thanks.
 
thank you my friend. its guys like gautho, makavelli, and silverbackn that impress me with their bf being that low at the 225lb range. let people hate my man. ive been hated on my whole life for many reasons be it financial, looks, athletic ability, success in life you name it. use that hating to fuel your fire. everytime you grab that fucking bar remember the motherfucker that said you couldn't something. every lean pound you put on remind yourself of all the people that hated on you. acquire as much jelousy towards yourself from others and turn it around, you'll be amazed at the results. i think if you tanned first off and posted pics we would see a whole different person. aside from that i don't know why people are jelous you have a the genetics of the incredible hulk, i'd think they would be getting out of your way. lol. donate your first trophy all the haters you had.

i'll just tell you this, i went to college and a lot of teachers had told me i wouldnt be shit when i grew up cause i was an athlete and i fucked girls and did drugs and partied. i mailed each mother fucker a copy of my diploma the day i got it. aside from that i was 125 at 6 2 when i started college at 18. always got made fun of for being skinny but i didn't care cause i got puss and it just didn't effect me. but you best believe now that i'm 6 3 190 the haters are cringing. stick around bro. keep posting pics and results, i see you having a top ef build in a short time. DONT HATE CONGRATULATE.
 
bruce410 said:
thank you my friend. its guys like gautho, makavelli, and silverbackn that impress me with their bf being that low at the 225lb range. let people hate my man. ive been hated on my whole life for many reasons be it financial, looks, athletic ability, success in life you name it. use that hating to fuel your fire. everytime you grab that fucking bar remember the motherfucker that said you couldn't something. every lean pound you put on remind yourself of all the people that hated on you. acquire as much jelousy towards yourself from others and turn it around, you'll be amazed at the results. i think if you tanned first off and posted pics we would see a whole different person. aside from that i don't know why people are jelous you have a the genetics of the incredible hulk, i'd think they would be getting out of your way. lol. donate your first trophy all the haters you had.

i'll just tell you this, i went to college and a lot of teachers had told me i wouldnt be shit when i grew up cause i was an athlete and i fucked girls and did drugs and partied. i mailed each mother fucker a copy of my diploma the day i got it. aside from that i was 125 at 6 2 when i started college at 18. always got made fun of for being skinny but i didn't care cause i got puss and it just didn't effect me. but you best believe now that i'm 6 3 190 the haters are cringing. stick around bro. keep posting pics and results, i see you having a top ef build in a short time. DONT HATE CONGRATULATE.
:beer:
 
I fucking love this place.. This place is full of a bunch of upbeat, no bullshit, bust ass guys who are out to become better people and help others become better people.. It's a brotherhood..

And definitely.. stick a dick in your ear and fuck what you heard b/c you are a fucking freak Humble.. lemme know if you need any info on MT-II or anything else..

T-Matt
 
T-Matt said:
I fucking love this place.. This place is full of a bunch of upbeat, no bullshit, bust ass guys who are out to become better people and help others become better people.. It's a brotherhood..

And definitely.. stick a dick in your ear and fuck what you heard b/c you are a fucking freak Humble.. lemme know if you need any info on MT-II or anything else..

T-Matt

Will do T-Matt. I have met alot of good bros through this thread, including you.
 
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