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Stocks_and_Steroids
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Cranberry juice or Cranberry Sups/pills for Kidney support. Drop the Creatine while on especially Anavar orally , Creatine wont make a huge differnence to anything but your kidneys health.
7 week Anavar Cycle
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SapperKicks
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I plan to do my first cycle while deployed to Afghanistan, and I think orals is the best way to go. I'm looking to get stronger without putting on too much weight.
Tentative Plan:
Weeks 1-7: Anavar @ 50mg/day
Weeks 1-7: Creatine
Weeks 1-7: Liv 52
Weeks 1-7: L-Glutamine
PCT:
Weeks 8-12: HCGenerate
Is there anything else I need?
Tentative Plan:
Weeks 1-7: Anavar @ 50mg/day
Weeks 1-7: Creatine
Weeks 1-7: Liv 52
Weeks 1-7: L-Glutamine
PCT:
Weeks 8-12: HCGenerate
Is there anything else I need?
Stocks_and_Steroids
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Liv support is good. But Anavar won't hurt your Liver even at 100mg /day. I know, I just finished 7 weeks of Var at 100mg /day for 7 weeks too. BUT, Anavar taxes the Kidneys, kicks their ass to put it better. most never mention that FACT. Drink lots of water and some cranberry sups or juice each day
tical
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The anavar might suppress your HPTA slightly.
It's good that you're doing a PCT as some people think they don't have to when using a compound like anavar. I personally can't speak for the effectiveness of "HCGenerate" but a low dose SERM (like clomid or nolva) is pretty much guaranteed to stimulate LH production via the pituitary (unless you have a glandular problem). I personally would use 12.5mg of Clomid or even 10mg of Nolvadex daily for a 6 week PCT, even tapering down the last couple of weeks to 6.75 or 5mg respectively.
Good luck.
It's good that you're doing a PCT as some people think they don't have to when using a compound like anavar. I personally can't speak for the effectiveness of "HCGenerate" but a low dose SERM (like clomid or nolva) is pretty much guaranteed to stimulate LH production via the pituitary (unless you have a glandular problem). I personally would use 12.5mg of Clomid or even 10mg of Nolvadex daily for a 6 week PCT, even tapering down the last couple of weeks to 6.75 or 5mg respectively.
Good luck.
Stocks_and_Steroids
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According to my Blood tests I posted no more toxic than alot of acetaminophen daily. My numbers were perfect right before the Var. So perfect at 38 I was given preferred plus status on a another life policy. Only given to the healthiest. My point is Liver is so slight it's irrelevant. Ignoring the Kidneys in the case of Anavar is ignoring the the 300 pound gorilla in the room. But sure, I'll go ahead and say it first. I am just one person. My results were not specific to the general population. Just a fluke.
Oh I should note I took no Liver protection the whole time either. And the Var was right after a Test and Deca cycle with no break in between.
SapperKicks
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Thanks for the replies. I very much appreciate the help.
Drop the creatine? There are many posts on these boards that attest to creatine and anavar being complimentary. For creatine, I planned to take Jack3d pre-workout, and Creatine Monohydrate post workout.
I'm going to stick with the Liv.52 (better safe) and will add cranberry supplements.
I will also add Clomid (because it comes in capsules) to my PCT.
New Tentative Plan:
Weeks 1-7: Anavar @ 50mg/day
Weeks 1-7: Creatine
Weeks 1-7: Liv 52
Weeks 1-7: L-Glutamine
Weeks 1-7: Cranberry Supplement
PCT:
Weeks 8-12: HCGenerate
Weeks 8-12: Clomid @ 12.5mg/day
Weeks 13-14: Clomid @ 6.75mg/day
Is this better? Is there anything else I should add/subtract?
Got 6 weeks to get all the gear before I leave.
Drop the creatine? There are many posts on these boards that attest to creatine and anavar being complimentary. For creatine, I planned to take Jack3d pre-workout, and Creatine Monohydrate post workout.
I'm going to stick with the Liv.52 (better safe) and will add cranberry supplements.
I will also add Clomid (because it comes in capsules) to my PCT.
New Tentative Plan:
Weeks 1-7: Anavar @ 50mg/day
Weeks 1-7: Creatine
Weeks 1-7: Liv 52
Weeks 1-7: L-Glutamine
Weeks 1-7: Cranberry Supplement
PCT:
Weeks 8-12: HCGenerate
Weeks 8-12: Clomid @ 12.5mg/day
Weeks 13-14: Clomid @ 6.75mg/day
Is this better? Is there anything else I should add/subtract?
Got 6 weeks to get all the gear before I leave.
split endz
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50 mg/ed shut me down pretty hard last time; recommend hcg small dose throughout & nolva for a couple of weeks for pct.
SapperKicks
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Nolva instead of Clomid?
SapperKicks
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What about a PCT where I use unleashed, solo, for 30 days?
endojuicedr
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I'd just use the clomid... your kidneys will be fine as long as you drink a decent amount of water, I don't feel that cranberry is needed unless you're running tren.
Just remember if your in the mountains above 6000ft, your already going to have to double your water intake from 2.5 qts a day to about 4qts b/c of cold weather and altitude without any supps. On top of that be weary of Acute mountain sickness (AMS), HAPE and HACE.
I would suggest acclimatizing first before starting. Creatine will impact your water intake and then anavar will as well. Dont want to rain on your parade but you need to be in shape before you hit the mountains, you cant do it while running around at high altitude. Its too dangerous to go there thinking you will get in shape while there. You have the altitude, the combat operations and i would look into what it may do to your blood. Will you bleed more while on anavar compared to not being on Anavar? If so what if you get shot and your high up where you need CASEVAC with the SKED and ropes. I only bring these questions to mind because i am Army Mountain Warfare Qualified and know the mountains kill, its only a matter of time. I would do research and ask around about the anavar and the science first. Its already dangerous there, do you want to make it even more risky by taking a supp that could cause problems to your body at high altitude. The oxygen content is thinner.
"Mobility is lethality" Ascend to Victory
I would suggest acclimatizing first before starting. Creatine will impact your water intake and then anavar will as well. Dont want to rain on your parade but you need to be in shape before you hit the mountains, you cant do it while running around at high altitude. Its too dangerous to go there thinking you will get in shape while there. You have the altitude, the combat operations and i would look into what it may do to your blood. Will you bleed more while on anavar compared to not being on Anavar? If so what if you get shot and your high up where you need CASEVAC with the SKED and ropes. I only bring these questions to mind because i am Army Mountain Warfare Qualified and know the mountains kill, its only a matter of time. I would do research and ask around about the anavar and the science first. Its already dangerous there, do you want to make it even more risky by taking a supp that could cause problems to your body at high altitude. The oxygen content is thinner.
"Mobility is lethality" Ascend to Victory
HarryHarry
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Lets green that guy ^
Ok so the clomid vs nolva debate. Heres a good quick answer. Forget them both.
Both clomid and nolva are mainly popular in the steroid world to reverse effects that anavar doesnt even posses. Sure it will help with the milder sides of anavar but there are a hell of alot better options out there than clomid and nolva. Both have bad side effects and health risks connected to them so why even bother. Liver support and HCGenerate during & after cycle, post cycle and unleashed for 4 weeks after as recommended on bottle. Simple but effective PCT for anavar;.
As for the few anavar doesnt effect the liver posts I seen in this thread thats just stupid. Any oral effects your liver, just because anavar is mild on the liver at a normal dose of lets say 40-60mg dont mean you can double to dose and still be safe.
Get your research done! anavar is mild steroid the same as the flu is a mild illness. Both could still fuck you up but if you arnt prepared.
Harry
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ALIN
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I think 7 wks for ANAVAR is too short.
You will see its best effects 10-12 wks.
Stocks_and_Steroids
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You should have read my posts before commenting on them DUMBFUCK! I said effects on the liver will be NEGLIGIBLE! That doesnt mean there isnt any effect. All things you put in your body have an effect.
But like I said keep talking about the Liver. When your fuckin dumbass will be down doing Dialysis one day by neglecting your Kidneys
HarryHarry
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I did read your posts. Thats why I made the comment to correct you. Read them back yourself.
Anavar wont hurt your liver at 100mg a day??? That comment there wins the argument on the fact you have no clue.
Harry
Stocks_and_Steroids
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Do you undertstand the definition of "negligible"? Apparently not!! I just have some measly Full Panel Blood tests to back up what I said. Not parroting some message board theory like you. But anyway, Believe what you want.
HarryHarry
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lol your argument is "negligible", meaning pointless and not important.
So to say that the liver damage anavar will cause at 100mgs a day is not important is stupid. So lets see these blood results then? before and after.
Message board theory that orals causes stress on the livers? Fact.
Harry
So to say that the liver damage anavar will cause at 100mgs a day is not important is stupid. So lets see these blood results then? before and after.
Message board theory that orals causes stress on the livers? Fact.
Harry
Stocks_and_Steroids
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Okay, one more time. I am not speaking about any OTHER ORAL OTHER THAN ANAVAR. Not ANY OTHER ORAL.
I know orals stress the liver. But Anavar is mild on the Liver and hard on the Kidneys. That is what I am saying. Others have stated this fact too.
Here is my thread I posted my test results after 7 wks Var at 100 mg /day
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...var-cycle-jacked-my-kidney-values-721405.html
Before my cycle my Creatnine was 1.0 out of .07-1.5
My BUN was 12 out of 9-25
My PHOS was 3 out of 2.5-4.9
One more time. This thread is about Anavar. Not other orals, as I recall.
HarryHarry
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When I sayed any oral I was speaking in general, not just for steroids. Paracetomol causes stress to your liver and Im sure youl agree anavar may be mild but its worse than paracetomol. May be a miniscule amount but there is still damage, even more so at such a high dose and constant for 7 weeks.
This little battle has went on long enough so lets nip it in the bud since this topic looks dead anyways now. Il agree in your results your liver was fine and your kidenys where hit hardest. Just hope you agree that the reason for me posting against your comment was because I thought it was bad advice to give to someone new incase they took it litarily. Your comment was probably just worded wrong anyways lets say?
Harry
Stocks_and_Steroids
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I agree, maybe we both were confused by the wording. I hate the thought of using orals. I was actually injecting some Oxandralone in Suspension till my ass said no more pinning everyday. I actually have a friend who had a failed kidney who was a juicer. I didnt see him much so we didnt talk about what each other was doing. But I know he never took precautions. He never got educated on what he was taking either. Just gym buddy education.
I think we both agree to be safe and take precautions. Have a good one.
HarryHarry
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Coudnt agree more.
And for the record injectable Anavar is awsome. Only used it once as its rare in the UK but if you can get ahold of it and bear the pinning hell your a lucky man dude. Lift big!
Harry
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