i got mine for 13 which is kinda expensive, but 21 is rediculous. Oh and even though they work when you drink em; i'll stick to shooting them. Call me sick or whatever but i like intermuscular injections. The soreness reminds me that i got good stuff in there helping me grow. It makes me crave the gym. I love it. I thought i was plateau'ed untill i started my cycle. I gained 10 lbs of lean muscle in just 2 and 1/2 weeks just cause the roids have made me more motivated. They havnt even kicked in yet. You think i only need to take 50 mg every other day with these? That means i can start my winny now, if i take it every other day. Im on week 3. Would it be too long to be on winny at 50mg EOD for 7 weeks?