500mg Test C vs 750 Sust per week PCT...

[oklahoma86]

Going from 500mg/wk of Test Cyp on my last (and first) cycle to 750mg/wk Sust and 100mg/EOD Mast. I went all natty with PCT and On Cycle, but since this is a little more complex I dont know if HCGenerate and Forma with Unleashed/PostCycle added at PCT is gonna do it. I didnt have any sides last time... but this is a different run! What do yall suggest. Stats are:

24YO
6' Tall
190lbs
12%BF
2nd Cycle - First was a 10 week 500mg test C cycle with some Beast

Anxious for any input, and thanks!!

 

[Arabian]

Going from 500mg/wk of Test Cyp on my last (and first) cycle to 750mg/wk Sust and 100mg/EOD Mast. I went all natty with PCT and On Cycle, but since this is a little more complex I dont know if HCGenerate and Forma with Unleashed/PostCycle added at PCT is gonna do it. I didnt have any sides last time... but this is a different run! What do yall suggest. Stats are:

24YO
6' Tall
190lbs
12%BF
2nd Cycle - First was a 10 week 500mg test C cycle with some Beast

Anxious for any input, and thanks!!

What were your first cycle results? IMO , that seems like a big jump for your second cycle. I have always tried to find a moderate dose that promotes gains however minimizes side effects. Good Luck

 

[oklahoma86]

First cycle results were great... I broke my back midway through (not as bad as it sounds) and had to take a few weeks off, and still gained 15 as of now and lost 1% BF (3 months off). So... great results!! I was going to go up from 500 some - maybe to 625... plus I added the mast EOD, but someone had said that with the sust they would go ahead and run 750 for that cycle. Im trying to figure it out, 750 is definitly the very high end of what I would consider doing at this point, but at the same time that does put it up for consideration. I tend to feel that less is more, too, though, whenever possible. Im not interested much in sides, really.

 

[Strongbow]

Just remember stay low till you can't grow. It's hard to go back if you make that big jump. Your PCT with HCGenerate, Forma, with Unleashed and Post Cyle will be just fine. That's basically what I have been on for 4 weeks, minus the MYO-T12 and the GH, I hadn't lost a pound to date.

 

[oklahoma86]

Im thinkin Im jus gonna try to hit around 600-625/wk. This gives me the added bonus of only needing 3 10ml vials of Sust, instead of a fourth, for the 11 or 12 week cycle. Any advice on whether or not to frontload Sust? Im gonna check other threads but any information is appreciated. I was considering doubling up the first week and cutting the cycle to 11 instead of 12 weeks

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

Maybe go with some test/deca and a dbol or beast kickstart?

 

[Nelson Montana]

You should have been using N2GUARD and HCGen while ON the cycle, not afterwards.

You're also going to need a little HCG to get things going and maybe some aromasin, depending on your sensitivity to estro sides, but it isn't like MORE PCT does more. ANd it isn't like there's some secret ingredient that will help a more suppressive cycle. Just stick with the formula and give it time.

 

[25homes]

600mg sust enough

 

[Essie]

750mg of Sust a week is a lot ... I would, on a personal level, not jump that high that quickly. 500 - 600mg/week would be sufficient. Even though Sust has fast acting esthers in the mix, a good frontload almost always helps, physically and definately mentally as well because you 'see' results very quicker than without it. With this being your 2nd cycle, if you are going to frontload it, I would suggest DBol @ 20mg/day ED Wk 1 to see how your body takes it and if all goes well with the liver and kidneys on that dosage, up to 25mg/day ED Wks 2-4. Keep at least some milk-thistle at hand, you haven't used this compound before and don't know how your body is going to react to it (DBol) due to it's composition - it will also boost your strength by quite a bit.

 

[ALIN]

Going from 500mg/wk of Test Cyp on my last (and first) cycle to 750mg/wk Sust and 100mg/EOD Mast. I went all natty with PCT and On Cycle, but since this is a little more complex I dont know if HCGenerate and Forma with Unleashed/PostCycle added at PCT is gonna do it. I didnt have any sides last time... but this is a different run! What do yall suggest. Stats are:

24YO
6' Tall
190lbs
12%BF
2nd Cycle - First was a 10 week 500mg test C cycle with some Beast

Anxious for any input, and thanks!!

I would definitely suggest a solid PCT after
every cycle. We go with CLOMID/NOLVA

 

[instant.muscle]

test c test e and sust are all the same pretty much, just go by the dosage, just pretend the 750mg of sust is tren c...

 

[oklahoma86]

All great input, and very helpful. And Nelson, as far as I know N2Guard wasnt out until I was already in PCT, and I was on HCGenerate from week 2 @ 5caps ED. I almost wish I HADNT taken it, just so I know how much it was actually doing! I didnt get testicular atrophy till about week 7 or 8, and by week 10 it was very noticable, but other than that no sides, and I dont have any bloodwork to get a concrete answer. Basically, I dont know if I had HCGenerate to thank for this or if it means it did nothing!!! Either way, like I said... no sides, no ill effects.... If its not broke, Im not gonna mess with it. Im runnin it again this cycle too!

I am gonna use hcg I think, but just need to figure out how to dose it. I might kickstart with 4 weeks of Beast, but Im not gonna frontload the injectables I dont think