5 Minutes Alone

[Donkeymule8]

I just recently started on this website, have made a few decent posts with decents responses. Mostly I have just been trying to read as much as I can here, instead of asking stupid questions or responding to legitimate questions when I dont know what I am talking about. So after all this reading, I am confused as hell.

I am 6'0, fluctuate between 173-180 lbs. (last year 130's, {meth addict for 5 years}) trying to bulk AMAP, but with quality I can keep. There are so many different AAS and PCT drugs, as well as the HGH and IGF and insulins. I feel like I am on the cereal eisle. Everything looks good. I feel like I wanna do 'em all. I have gotten a few 'conflicting' words of advise, mainly from the guy I can get the stuff from,friends, and a few things I have read. The more I read, the more i think my guy is just selling for $, instead of trying to help me. For example, The HCG i did with my first cycle. I dont know the brand other than it is chinese. I dont know dosage or IU per amp. And it ONLY has a powder amp, not the liquid. I just dont if Im doing it right. I make an order and its just confusing cuz. I thought a 'cycle' was 10 amps or 10mL vial. I am getting ready to start my second cycle, and have ordered ONE 10mL vial of the following. Sust 250, Deca 200, Tren (oil, not Acetate), 4 of this guys 'HCG kits', 25 Nolva pills, 1 'order' of IGF-1. My first cycle was Super Sust 350 and I did around 500mg per week, and ran two if the mystery HCG kits, and nolva 2 weeks after it was over. I have been told that with the low mgs per cc of the vials I am getting, that I need to up the amount, whichwould mean I need another vial of each. Does this sound right? I try to ask questions to the man but he seems irritated I question his 'expertise'. I would hate piss him off, as I got off on the first cycle, even though it was just Sust, VERY hard. Felt like ripping my steering wheel off, defintely felt the power. Lats spreading so far and fast I look like a cobra. I love it. Thats why I am so excited about doing this next 1. If I got off on sust like that, I cant wait to plug into untapped receptor sites and make some serious gains with #2. I want this second cycle to be perfect, so I need some recommendations for what I should add to this cycle, drop from it, doses, if I need more, what to run first, last, the whole time, if I need some orals, what days of the week to shot what, have certain injection days for each AS, or all in one day per week,is hcg and nolva effective enough? or do I need more anti's,etc. Its just confusing. it seems the more threads I read, The more questions I have. I really wanna put together a solid program. Perfection is the key here for me, I love the stuff, I feel addicted already. Not only do I wanna be on it, I want everyone around me on it lol. I have no problems in the gym and I am going to get super rigid with my diet and rest, so I am not COMPLETELY nieve in all areas. I have already paid for it and its in route for what I mentioned above. But I can add to it if needed. or maybe I just need to chill. I promise you wont hurt my feelings, help me

 

[Goldprospector]

Dang bro, this is very hard to read...Split it up and ask only a coupe different questions at a time.
As far as the local gym Guru who is trying to sell you this stuff, does he look massive and shredded? If not, then I am sure he is in it just for the $$.

HCG, you need to know how much is in it...and it should come with a second vial to reconstitute it.

 

[mrp3652]

I don't think that you should be using steroids at this time for a couple of reasons. 1. You said you just came off being a meth addict and it appears are merely substituting to a steroid addiction, which you said you felt already. 2. At your height and weight you could still gain significant natural mass without the use of steroids with a proper DIET and WORKOUT.
Post out your current diet, workout regimin, and the doses of the items that you said you already ordered.

 

[Donkeymule8]

I don't think that you should be using steroids at this time for a couple of reasons. 1. You said you just came off being a meth addict and it appears are merely substituting to a steroid addiction, which you said you felt already. 2. At your height and weight you could still gain significant natural mass without the use of steroids with a proper DIET and WORKOUT.
Post out your current diet, workout regimin, and the doses of the items that you said you already ordered.

MRP this is very true. However, im not being a smart ass by any means, but I already gained 25 lbs+ NATURALLY. I worked out fora good 8 months, 5 days a week, before I started. My diet is good, most of the time. 3500 calories. 150-200 gs protein. My workout is extreme. I give 110% at all times. So Trust me in my own defense, I am not just shooting trying to get big and replace one addic. with another. Even though I am a 'newby' in the juice world, I already know the code as far as working out goes. To me, I workout harder than many vets in the gym. I find myself working out with them because even though in comparison I am a little guy, I have the intensity of a seasoned vet. Some of the monsters say I have 'Rudy' syndrome. As far as the dosage is concerned on what I ordered, I said I ordered 1 10ml Vial of each.

In the warrior's code there's no surrender
though his body says stop, his spirit crys never

 

[Donkeymule8]

Dang bro, this is very hard to read...Split it up and ask only a coupe different questions at a time.
As far as the local gym Guru who is trying to sell you this stuff, does he look massive and shredded? If not, then I am sure he is in it just for the $$.

HCG, you need to know how much is in it...and it should come with a second vial to reconstitute it.

no viaL of liquid, just the powder. And yes he is massive, flat benchs with 150's with reps. It was impressive to me

 

[tiggerizme]

I have a bad feeling you are going to get a bunch of PM's from people wanting to scam you. STick around bro, read up and learn from some people around here who know what they are talking about. Don't just jump on the first thing someone tries to sale you. Be cautious but be courteous.

You are in the right place to learn so just sit back, relas and it will all come to you.

 

[Donkeymule8]

I have a bad feeling you are going to get a bunch of PM's from people wanting to scam you. STick around bro, read up and learn from some people around here who know what they are talking about. Don't just jump on the first thing someone tries to sale you. Be cautious but be courteous.

You are in the right place to learn so just sit back, relas and it will all come to you.

definetly. Thanks

 

[RippeD SacK]

Shit man. Next post try to reduce the amount rambling and what not. Far to much to read at one sitting unless you got some time on you hands. I was courious how long you been of meth? With an addiction that serious for such a long time I wouldn't think a drug even non recreational is a good idea.

 

[Donkeymule8]

Shit man. Next post try to reduce the amount rambling and what not. Far to much to read at one sitting unless you got some time on you hands. I was courious how long you been of meth? With an addiction that serious for such a long time I wouldn't think a drug even non recreational is a good idea.

Well yea that was the purpose of that thread ripped, for only people that actually wanted to take the time to read it and understand. not just a bunch of sentence frags and back and forth replies. But to answer your question, I have been off for over 2 years. r typical meth user.Wasnt a tweaker that wouldnt leave my apt., No longer an issue.

 

[mrp3652]

MRP this is very true. However, im not being a smart ass by any means, but I already gained 25 lbs+ NATURALLY. I worked out fora good 8 months, 5 days a week, before I started. My diet is good, most of the time. 3500 calories. 150-200 gs protein. My workout is extreme. I give 110% at all times. So Trust me in my own defense, I am not just shooting trying to get big and replace one addic. with another. Even though I am a 'newby' in the juice world, I already know the code as far as working out goes. To me, I workout harder than many vets in the gym. I find myself working out with them because even though in comparison I am a little guy, I have the intensity of a seasoned vet. Some of the monsters say I have 'Rudy' syndrome. As far as the dosage is concerned on what I ordered, I said I ordered 1 10ml Vial of each.

In the warrior's code there's no surrender
though his body says stop, his spirit crys never

Well I applaud you for your hardwork over the past 8 months and overcoming your meth addiction but I still think you can gain atleast another 25 lbs naturally over the next couple of years while learning to tweek your diet and workout program to the best for you. Taking your time and doing it right is what this is all about. Learn from your experiences whether good or bad and figure out what works so you can keep gaining.
As far as those 10ml vials, I need to know the mg/ml of each compound since they can vary greatly. This is just one of the many things you will learn by reading and researching before just jumping into it. Trusting someone else to tell you what to take is idiotic(no offense) whether they are a newbie or experienced becomes when it comes down to it, it's your body and not theirs. Make up your own mind and you will get more out of the whole experience.

 

[dilznik]

Well what ever you decide be sure to stay off the meth and you should be aight. Most people will agree that you need to fully peak with your natural ability prior, but seems as if your in a hurry. Do you feel truly dedicaded and have a consistant schedule when it comes to working out? Be sure your doing it for the right reasons and not just to look good for 3 months and then fall apart after. Good luck man.

 

[say111]

MRP this is very true. However, im not being a smart ass by any means, but I already gained 25 lbs+ NATURALLY. I worked out fora good 8 months, 5 days a week, before I started. My diet is good, most of the time. 3500 calories. 150-200 gs protein. My workout is extreme. I give 110% at all times. So Trust me in my own defense, I am not just shooting trying to get big and replace one addic. with another. Even though I am a 'newby' in the juice world, I already know the code as far as working out goes. To me, I workout harder than many vets in the gym. I find myself working out with them because even though in comparison I am a little guy, I have the intensity of a seasoned vet. Some of the monsters say I have 'Rudy' syndrome. As far as the dosage is concerned on what I ordered, I said I ordered 1 10ml Vial of each.

In the warrior's code there's no surrender
though his body says stop, his spirit crys never

Hey bro, I hate to break it to you . If you eat 3500 calories and all you get is 150-200 g of protein then you really need to work on your diet. Remember, your diet will make up for 60 - 70% of what you want to acomplish. The gear is just for assistance. Check the boards, ask around and revamp your diet. You need more protein. You are definitely not getting enough.

 

[immortalis]

Well what ever you decide be sure to stay off the meth and you should be aight.

I havent touched that shit in a long time, thank god. I've seen it damn near completely wreck too many of my close friends lives.

I'll stick to using gear once every 1.5 to 2 years or so

... oh yeah, and a blunt every night