4th cycle tren or deca?

[solidrock5]

yo ive done 3 cycles
1st dbol only 5 wk i know i know
2nd test 500 every week 10wk
4th dbol and test 500wk 12wk

im 27 510 185


never done a 19nor

im thinking 500wk test with dbol kick start and either deca 400wk or tren 350 wk

im really lean so i dont worry about bloat but i really wanna try tren i heard nothing but good things from my buddies and yet i wanna try deca since i tend to stay lean even with a garbage diet eating 6ooo cals of shit haha.

will deca or tren give me the best bulk? i want mass and what tends to keep more gains?

i have hcg caber and clomid for on cycle and pct and some unleashed/ pct on me.
hawthorn berry for blood and some more milkthistle for liver
I want another transformation, my diets gonna b a some what clean diet of 6000 cals easy rice pasta eggs chicken beef fish taters salad fruits beans veggies and oats and fast obsorbing protien for post workout and weight gainer for snacks and JUnCK FOOD AND ICE CREAM!!!!! haha jk i try to limit my treats.

soooo tren or deca? im lean i want mass but look sick ripped. So thats why imma try this run to limit fatty shit and junk. tren melts fat and adds sick mass deca classic mass. what you think

 

[Hulkinator]

Tren-E at 500 mgs a week. It is not for faint at heart, read some of the possible side effects. For me it was rough to 2 weeks then I leveled out. If you can't handle it switch to Tren-a. Big gains. Test-e 600 mgs stacked with Tren-e 500 mgs

 

[ALIN]

TREN is a VERY powerful AAS. You can bulk or cut while using it,,of course depending on diet.

 

[solidrock5]

or just test and dbol test at 750? yea i heard alot about tren and i was leaning tward it. you think for me being lean tren would be a better bulker and staying cut or could i stay cut and get bulk and mass from deca? and whats the worst side or sides from deca and tren that youve expirienced? i could list all of them that ive read but i wanna hear it from the mouth ya know

 

[infraredline]

yo ive done 3 cycles
1st dbol only 5 wk i know i know
2nd test 500 every week 10wk
4th dbol and test 500wk 12wk

im 27 510 185


never done a 19nor

im thinking 500wk test with dbol kick start and either deca 400wk or tren 350 wk

im really lean so i dont worry about bloat but i really wanna try tren i heard nothing but good things from my buddies and yet i wanna try deca since i tend to stay lean even with a garbage diet eating 6ooo cals of shit haha.

will deca or tren give me the best bulk? i want mass and what tends to keep more gains?

i have hcg caber and clomid for on cycle and pct and some unleashed/ pct on me.
hawthorn berry for blood and some more milkthistle for liver
I want another transformation, my diets gonna b a some what clean diet of 6000 cals easy rice pasta eggs chicken beef fish taters salad fruits beans veggies and oats and fast obsorbing protien for post workout and weight gainer for snacks and JUnCK FOOD AND ICE CREAM!!!!! haha jk i try to limit my treats.

soooo tren or deca? im lean i want mass but look sick ripped. So thats why imma try this run to limit fatty shit and junk. tren melts fat and adds sick mass deca classic mass. what you think

Test c 500mg
Dihydroboldenone (1-test) 450-500mg a week

Dihydroboldenone will give tren like results but has almost no sides, and isn't a 19-nor, that's my recommendation

 

[Texas Monster]

I would suggest NPP for this one.

almost 3 ccs of test + 3ccs of NPP per week. Pin Monday Wednesday Friday. Could kick start it with some dbol or evel tbol. ( Tbol is better imo). Depends on the vials you get. You can get 200mg/ml for NPP. 3 vials at 3 pins a week will get you that 10 weeks. For the test if it is dosed at 250mg/ml just do 2.4 cc a week.

This is also the best way for a good bulker with a 19-nor. After 10 weeks with tren or deca your gains will quickly plataue and at this point you want to get that shit out of your system because then the next thing that comes is the side effects of running a 19-nor for too long. This is why deca is out. Tren e would be ok to run for 10 weeks but with Tren I would rather stick to a shorter blast cycle to recover quicker.

So here is your bulking set up.

Week 1-10 Test c 600-750mg
Week 1-10 NPP 600mg
Week 1-4 Tbol 50mg
Week 1-4 N2gaurd
Week 1-10 Caber .25 mg 3x week

Week 5-12 HCG 500ius to 1000 ius
Week 1-4 HCgenerate

Week 11,12 HMG 75 ius every 3 days

Week 13 start PCT
Forma
Clomid 25/25/25/25
PCT+Unleashed
DAA 6g

Then follow up with some more bridge and hcgnerate to really collect on your gains in the gym.

 

[solidrock5]

looked up dht im not sure on that one i really havent looked into it or primo bold. i have looked into npp and that was an option.

 

[solidrock5]

would tren e 200 a week do much?

 

[solidrock5]

im going with npp. im gonna wait until summer than im gonna get me some tren and mast with my test. buahahaha

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

Tren....not even a fucking question. You ain't done shit tell you do the wicked TREN...

 

[solidrock5]

Faaaaaack broly your gonna make me change my mind you think 200 of tren e would be ok for 10 weeks or what you think would be a good mild first tren cycle yet still get the beastly effect?

 

[Texas Monster]

For your first tren cycle go as low as you can go. Some guys do 50 mg eod and still get good results!!!!!!!!

Keep tren short and sweet because you will keep more of your gains that way!

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

For your first tren cycle go as low as you can go. Some guys do 50 mg eod and still get good results!!!!!!!!

Keep tren short and sweet because you will keep more of your gains that way!

Ya Tren A is best 50mg eod is good start to see your bodies reactions. Can always adjust up. Length depends on sides for most beginner's 6 weeks would good run.