4 Months After First Cycle

[getbig405]

Want to get some advice regarding bloodwork. I ran my first cycle (12 weeks Test E 500mg / added some Mast at the end) Then did a standard 4 week Nolva/Clomid PCT. I ran HCG (500ius /wk) toward the end of the cycle but stopped it prior to PCT.

I did bloodwork pre-cycle, on cycle, and then again 4 months after. My concern is my Serum test level came back about 100ng/DL lower. I know these test can vary somewhat depending on many contributing factors (not just gear) but is this something I should worry about? Maybe run bloodwork again and see if it pops. Here's the before / after:

Before
Testosterone, Serum 611ng/DL (348-1197)
LH 5.3 mIU/ml (1.7-8.6)
FSH 5.6 mIU/ml (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol 30.9 pg/ML (7.6-42.6)

After
Testosterone, Serum 527ng/DL (348-1197)
LH 6.1 mIU/ml (1.7-8.6)
FSH 5.1 mIU/ml (1.5-12.4)
Estradiol 18.5 pg/ML (7.6-42.6)


Is this just typical variance or am I not yet fully recovered? Also are my levels going to get lower and lower after each cycle? Is this going to be a situation where it's two more cycles and im a TRT candidate?? Also the reason I ask is because I was considering another cycle

Any input would help.

thnx

ps-- i'm a 27yo male will be 28 in a month

 

[dylangemelli]

your pct was incomplete bro... you should not have been running hcg in your pct and you cannot rely on serms alone... they have their place but that is not a complete pct at all... here is what you should run from here on out...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AGguys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo ntbm.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

phytoserms and hcgenerate can be used in place of the unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock


On a bigger cycle, you could add nolva in as well... That will be dependent upon the size and length of the cycle...

 

[getbig405]

your pct was incomplete bro... you should not have been running hcg in your pct and you cannot rely on serms alone... they have their place but that is not a complete pct at all... here is what you should run from here on out...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AGguys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo ntbm.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

phytoserms and hcgenerate can be used in place of the unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock


On a bigger cycle, you could add nolva in as well... That will be dependent upon the size and length of the cycle...

i did not run HCG in my PCT, it was part of my cycle. I did aPCT by Anabolic Innovations and DAA and tossed in Nolvadren-XT by MAN. Are you actually suggesting that my test levels didn't recover because I failed to use a SARM?

 

[dylangemelli]

i did not run HCG in my PCT, it was part of my cycle. I did aPCT by Anabolic Innovations and DAA and tossed in Nolvadren-XT by MAN. Are you actually suggesting that my test levels didn't recover because I failed to use a SARM?

your post said you ran a standard 4 week clomid/nolva pct... I misread what you wrote about HCG but you made no mention of any other products in that post and now you all of a sudden changed that?

 

[getbig405]

your post said you ran a standard 4 week clomid/nolva pct... I misread what you wrote about HCG but you made no mention of any other products in that post and now you all of a sudden changed that?

i did not think the OTC products were super relevant to the question i'd asked

 

[Anabolic chest]

I disagree with a lot of guys on here about pct. I use the standard nolva/clomid combo. Your pct looks ok to me. Give it a bit more time, you should have run hcg from the start of the cycle, you didn't so it may take you slightly longer to fully recover now but your well on the way.
You could try some DAA in the meantime but get retested in a couple of months and I'd guess that you'd be back where you were.
Also time of day when blood was drawn can massively alter test results, as can diet, lack of sleep etc.

 

[dylangemelli]

i did not think the OTC products were super relevant to the question i'd asked

How is not mentioning your entire pct relevant?? Thats absolutely necessary to know so the underlying problem can be determined... How can your problem be assessed and corrected without all the pertinent information??

 

[getbig405]

How is not mentioning your entire pct relevant?? Thats absolutely necessary to know so the underlying problem can be determined... How can your problem be assessed and corrected without all the pertinent information??

I guess because regardless of what was run it's all cleared my system by now. But hey as stated it's my first cycle, I'm no expert.

 

[dylangemelli]

I guess because regardless of what was run it's all cleared my system by now. But hey as stated it's my first cycle, I'm no expert.

Well its good to ask and learn... It makes no difference whether its cleared... You have to provide complete info so i know what you used to put you at the point your at bro

 

[Jbranken]

Honestly, an 84 drop in test could be a daily fluctuation, as mentioned above. You're well within normal range and not far off from your previous numbers. Your LH is higher than your pre cycle bloods which is a good sign. Get it tested again and you'll see different numbers every time