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4 days into CKD and still not in ketosis??

Spunky

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I tested myself this morning and I could not really see much of a color change. I maybe in trace but im really not sure.. negative and trace colors look so much alike to me (im color blind). I have been strictly by the book... high fat, moderate protein, carbs under 20g. I have all the effects of being in ketosis... headaches, insomnia, fatique, metallic taste in mouth. My diet was like shit before this and I did consume alot of carbs on Sunday (I started the CKD on Monday) Could all those carbs on Sunday cause me to go into ketosis slower?
 
it takes forever for me to get into ketosis. I've come to the conculsion that one of the main culprits is aspertame. which sucks because ever diet drink has aspertame.

and I'm with you on the keto strips, I'm color blind too so it's hard to tell.
 
LMAO...I'm color blind too...I have to take my piss covered strips to my wife to read them.

I don't believe these strips are very accurate......a blood meter would be much better, so get on it NB.
 
Do more cardio and eat more fat maybe? On the first few days when i wana hit keto i do tons of cardio and eat tons of fat and moderate protein, and low/no carbs. Works for me, then once in keto work up the protein and lower the fat a lil....
 
Afterlife said:
Do more cardio and eat more fat maybe? On the first few days when i wana hit keto i do tons of cardio and eat tons of fat and moderate protein, and low/no carbs. Works for me, then once in keto work up the protein and lower the fat a lil....

Don't you worry about your body being so catabolic and burning muscle with all of that cardio?

I do agree about upping the fat intake.
 
palffyfan2 said:
Youre probably intaking some hidden carbs. Im after the first 12 hrs...

Everyone is different...my wife is the same as you...but I know several people on the diet that take days....in fact, I've read 2.5-3 days is average.
 
beastboy said:


Good find....explains alot...but at the same time, I wonder if I am in ketosis and not showing it on the strips, or if the aspartame is kicking me out.....guess the only way to find out is to drop the diet pop.

I hear ya. but I have so much in my house because they were selling diet dr pepper for $2.00 a 12 pack. So I'm going to chalk this week up as a failure and finish my sodas and start fresh. I'm also going to lay off the sausages (damn I love sausages) and eat a little more clean and start taking all those oils I bought.

oh and I need to find a blood tester.
 
i am eating around 220-250g of fat a day.. 90-100g of protein, and 20g of carbs. the carbs come from cheese and almonds so im not sure how to get much lower then 20g of carbs.. cheese and almonds make up a good portion of my fat so im not sure how to cut those out of my diet.
 
i need some ideas for things to eat... i am running out of ideas. i am eating alot of sausage, bacon (both w/ 0 carbs), tuna w/ regular mayo, salads (just cheese and regular ranch), almonds, and sliced cheese. What else can i eat?
 
cut back on the almonds and maybe try getting some good oils in your diet (if you haven't already).

sort of off topic, I'm wondering if your protein intake is too low, bump for opinions.
 
FINALLY IN KETOSIS!! hell i may have been in and it just wasn't registering because of all the water im drinking... i cut back on the water for about 2-3 hours and after i ate supper i waited 30 minutes and tested.. i showed small amounts of ketones. :)
 
Spunky said:
i need some ideas for things to eat... i am running out of ideas. i am eating alot of sausage, bacon (both w/ 0 carbs), tuna w/ regular mayo, salads (just cheese and regular ranch), almonds, and sliced cheese. What else can i eat?

chicken, eggs, red meat, pork chops, turkey, salami, pepperoni.... mmmm pepperoni, any other fish besides tuna.
 
I've fasted for 10.5 days on pure water (absolutely nothing else) and only been in 'trace' ketosis (4 mmol/l) near day 10. The web site that 'The Nature Boy' gave says that some people use the ketones there body produces differently, and they are not expelled in the urine. Also I may have been super-hydrating and diluted my urine too much.

By the way,.. good site for info Nature Boy!!!
 
SubjectiveIllusion said:
I've fasted for 10.5 days on pure water (absolutely nothing else) and only been in 'trace' ketosis (4 mmol/l) near day 10. The web site that 'The Nature Boy' gave says that some people use the ketones there body produces differently, and they are not expelled in the urine. Also I may have been super-hydrating and diluted my urine too much.

By the way,.. good site for info Nature Boy!!!

no problem bro, somehow I think the most accurate way of testing for ketones is a blood tester. but those things seem a little too pricey for me.
 
Spunky said:
FINALLY IN KETOSIS!! hell i may have been in and it just wasn't registering because of all the water im drinking... i cut back on the water for about 2-3 hours and after i ate supper i waited 30 minutes and tested.. i showed small amounts of ketones. :)

Dude.....like I told you in the email, don't stop drinking water just so you show a "positive" test. Being that you are under 20g of carbs, you need all the water you're drinking to stay hydrated.

I know a guy who didn't drink water his first couple of days off of a carbup, so he could tell how fast he gets back into ketosis, and his body cramped from his chest to his knees.

Imagine a calf cramp multiplied by 100 over 50% of your body.
 
You may very well be in ketosis. They don't always show up in your urine. In any event you are doing everything right. Stay after it, and eventually your body will adapt to it, and will go into ketosis much easier. It can take several weeks.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
You may very well be in ketosis. They don't always show up in your urine. In any event you are doing everything right. Stay after it, and eventually your body will adapt to it, and will go into ketosis much easier. It can take several weeks.

is ketosiss good for someine in their teens ?
 
BIG BROCK, ketosis is not an unhealthy state for most people. Its a perfectly normal human state. There have been many generations of humans in all of out ancestory who spent most of their lives in it. Most hunter gatherer societies (well the one's that don't have access to fruit) would pretty much be in ketosis from infancy till death. If you eat nothing but meats and green veggitables your entire life, you'll never be in glucosis. You are either in glucosis, ketosis, or are dead. Those are the only 3 choices in this regard. Since most people in modern american culture have been in glucosis their entire live, ketosis can be a bit hard on them until they adapt. It would be the same situation if you tried to give a 25-year-old from a society that ate nothing but meat and veggies alot of rice or sugar to eat. He wouldn't be used to glucosis, and it would take time to adapt.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
BIG BROCK, ketosis is not an unhealthy state for most people. Its a perfectly normal human state. There have been many generations of humans in all of out ancestory who spent most of their lives in it. Most hunter gatherer societies (well the one's that don't have access to fruit) would pretty much be in ketosis from infancy till death. If you eat nothing but meats and green veggitables your entire life, you'll never be in glucosis. You are either in glucosis, ketosis, or are dead. Those are the only 3 choices in this regard. Since most people in modern american culture have been in glucosis their entire live, ketosis can be a bit hard on them until they adapt. It would be the same situation if you tried to give a 25-year-old from a society that ate nothing but meat and veggies alot of rice or sugar to eat. He wouldn't be used to glucosis, and it would take time to adapt.

How does your body respond to ketosis when you bf levels drop....
 
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