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30, 5ft11" 98kgs 16% BF, lean mass gains is the goal. Lifting 5 years, diet is great. 1st cycle Test E/dbol 12 weeks. Planning on doing my 2nd cycle at the end of the year and would like your opinions on when to have the stanazolol tabs.
1-12 Test E- 600mg a week (2 pins)
4-12 hcgenerate and aromasin
8-12 stanazolol tabs 50mg per day
14-18 clomid, daa, forma and post cycle/unleashed combo
 
Aussi muscle said:
30, 5ft11" 98kgs 16% BF, lean mass gains is the goal. Lifting 5 years, diet is great. 1st cycle Test E/dbol 12 weeks. Planning on doing my 2nd cycle at the end of the year and would like your opinions on when to have the stanazolol tabs.
1-12 Test E- 600mg a week (2 pins)
4-12 hcgenerate and aromasin
8-12 stanazolol tabs 50mg per day
14-18 clomid, daa, forma and post cycle/unleashed combo
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Drop your body fat first. You should aim to be at least 12% before cycling
 
infraredline said:
Drop your body fat first. You should aim to be at least 12% before cycling
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Yeah I'm still waiting another 3-4 months before I start, should be down around that by then. I had a bad accident at the start of the year that put me on the lounge for two months. What do you think about the stanazolol at the start or at the end of cycle ?
 
Aussi muscle said:
30, 5ft11" 98kgs 16% BF, lean mass gains is the goal. Lifting 5 years, diet is great. 1st cycle Test E/dbol 12 weeks. Planning on doing my 2nd cycle at the end of the year and would like your opinions on when to have the stanazolol tabs.
1-12 Test E- 600mg a week (2 pins)
4-12 hcgenerate and aromasin
8-12 stanazolol tabs 50mg per day
14-18 clomid, daa, forma and post cycle/unleashed combo
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why are you running your test so high? that's completely unnecessary... i would drop it down to about 350... i would also kickstart with tbol 1-6 and finish with your winstrol except you need to run it from weeks 9-14... pct starts week 15, not 14... you also make no mention of n2guard, which you absolutely need with your orals... run aromasin from week 1 at 12.5 mg eod... run hcgenerate es from week 5-12 then start hcgenerate week 13-16...

you already know to get your body fat down... i was going to say your diet cannot be great at that body fat but i see you had an accident and couldn't do much but even then, it still should not be that high if your diet is great... im assuming it was not during that time... get these all in order and then you will be ready for the cycle...
 
dylangemelli said:
why are you running your test so high? that's completely unnecessary... i would drop it down to about 350... i would also kickstart with tbol 1-6 and finish with your winstrol except you need to run it from weeks 9-14... pct starts week 15, not 14... you also make no mention of n2guard, which you absolutely need with your orals... run aromasin from week 1 at 12.5 mg eod... run hcgenerate es from week 5-12 then start hcgenerate week 13-16...

you already know to get your body fat down... i was going to say your diet cannot be great at that body fat but i see you had an accident and couldn't do much but even then, it still should not be that high if your diet is great... im assuming it was not during that time... get these all in order and then you will be ready for the cycle...
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Thanks Dylan will grab some n2guard and yeah my error with pct start time. Last year you suggested that I run 500mg/week so just thought I would bump it up a bit. Is 350 going to be sufficient ? I will see if I can get some tbol as well, is it really good to have two orals so close together ? (even though tbol is milder on the liver).
Yeah mate i had a really bad trot from late last year and early this year, from staying with my father in hospital till he passed away then getting badly burnt in a fire. I was depressed, didn't train a great deal and ate all the naughty stuff. The weight piled on but have been back training and eating right and feeling a lot better mentally. Thanks for your help and time mate.
 
Aussi muscle said:
Thanks Dylan will grab some n2guard and yeah my error with pct start time. Last year you suggested that I run 500mg/week so just thought I would bump it up a bit. Is 350 going to be sufficient ? I will see if I can get some tbol as well, is it really good to have two orals so close together ? (even though tbol is milder on the liver).
Yeah mate i had a really bad trot from late last year and early this year, from staying with my father in hospital till he passed away then getting badly burnt in a fire. I was depressed, didn't train a great deal and ate all the naughty stuff. The weight piled on but have been back training and eating right and feeling a lot better mentally. Thanks for your help and time mate.
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You will be fine with the orals bro... 350 mg of test will be more than sufficient... Its about your goals here bro... get yourself back on track and consistent and you will be better than before...
 
dylangemelli said:
You will be fine with the orals bro... 350 mg of test will be more than sufficient... Its about your goals here bro... get yourself back on track and consistent and you will be better than before...
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I seen your post on nolva earlier and thought I should ask you if it would be beneficial in my pct as well
 
Aussi muscle said:
I seen your post on nolva earlier and thought I should ask you if it would be beneficial in my pct as well
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yes it will... here's a complete pct for you bro...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com


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I'm finding it hard to source the t-Bol from my contacts. Would a low dose (30mgs) of d-Bol for 4 weeks be a ok replacement ? I had d-Bol on my first cycle (with test E) and didn't seem to hold much water. I also have some albuterol coming and wondered when would be the optimum time to run it (pre,intra or post cycle)
 
Aussi muscle said:
I'm finding it hard to source the t-Bol from my contacts. Would a low dose (30mgs) of d-Bol for 4 weeks be a ok replacement ? I had d-Bol on my first cycle (with test E) and didn't seem to hold much water. I also have some albuterol coming and wondered when would be the optimum time to run it (pre,intra or post cycle)
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have you signed up at Evolutionary.org Forums ?? its an open source board... you can get the help you need there bro...
 
Aussi muscle said:
I'm finding it hard to source the t-Bol from my contacts. Would a low dose (30mgs) of d-Bol for 4 weeks be a ok replacement ? I had d-Bol on my first cycle (with test E) and didn't seem to hold much water. I also have some albuterol coming and wondered when would be the optimum time to run it (pre,intra or post cycle)
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Don't run albuterol in PCT. Wait to use it after PCT or during cycle if you will be cutting then.

And head over to www.evolutionary.org and sign up to get info on sources. You can use me as a referral
 
dylangemelli said:
have you signed up at Evolutionary.org Forums ?? its an open source board... you can get the help you need there bro...
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Thanks guys, I will have a look into it.(And i take it you guys hate the idea of a dbol kicker). So I was thinking a 3 week albuterol cycle a month out from the start of my aas cycle. Then after my pct immediately start another 3 week albuterol cycle with forma and daa. How's that sound ?
 
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