2nd Cycle wanna bulk!!!!

[bolognese]

hey guys

This is going to be my second cycle. The first one was 375mg Test Cyp/wk and 450mg EQ/wk for 12 weeks. I made decent gains but nothing to explosive. This time i wanna explode with size

I am 22 years old
5'9''
170lbs

I was thinking to use deca with the test and maybe in the first 4 to 6 weeks use dbol or anadrol.

Week 1 250mg Test E...250mg Deca
Week 2 375mg Test E...250mg Deca
Week 3 500mg Test E...375mg Deca
Week 4 500mg Test E...375mg Deca
Week 5 500mg Test E...375mg Deca
Week 6 500mg Test E...375mg Deca
Week 7 625mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 8 625mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 9 625mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 10 625mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 11 750mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 12 750mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 13 750mg Test E...500mg Deca
Week 14 750mg Test E...500mg Deca

Week 17 PCT will start using HCG 2000IU every 5 days and Clomid 100mg everyday for first week and the last 2 week 50mg every day. PCT will last 3 weeks.

I will also be running HCG starting in week 3 and ending in week 14 500IU every 5 days.

My questions are what would u prefer dbol or anadrol for the first 4 to 6 weeks and at what doseage?
After you mix HCG do u have to keep it cold or can it stay room temp?
Where do you inject HCG?

Any other advice about the cycle will be greatly apprecieated! Thanks Alot!!

 

[Peanutz26]

Why upp the dosage all the way trough? Is there any logic behind it?

 

[Nomak666]

theres no point in ramping up the dose. it was thought to be better in the past but its not. just keep the dose the same the whole way. 500mg of test and 500mg od deca should be fine for this cycle as its only your second one. dbol or anadrol, mg for mg, id go with dbol. also anadrol gave me worse sides at 50mg ed. dbol is good at 30-50mg, i start at 30 for 2 weeks, then 40 for 2 weeks, then 50 for a week or 2. hcg has to be kept cold after yo mix it with bac water. inject hcg anywhere, not into the muscle though, inject between the muscle and the skin, best spot is the stomach area. hcg injects are the same as hgh injects.

 

[joe d]

the only point in ramping doses is to gradually go up then gradually back down to avoid the need for ai's and pct. theres no need for this any more. if your doing it to prevent emotional sides just do the first and last inject at half the dose. aside from that i think the cycle is to long.

 

[bolognese]

Thanks for the replys...someone told me they had great success in rampin the doses upward throughout the cycle because like anything else your body builds up a tolerance to drugs or medications and more would be needed to achieve certain goals...it made sence to me at the time when he told me that...so thats why i thought i would do it that way...thanks for the advice and answering my questions about hcg!

No disrespect nomak666 but why would you tell me to ramp up the dose of dbol when you told me earlier in your reply not to ramp the dose up of the test or deca?? It sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

 

[wootoom]

Why the high dose? Man seriously that's alot especially for 170lbs

 

[bolognese]

the first cycle i did...i felt like the test dose was too low because i wasnt really satisfied with the gains i made...so i decided to bump it up a bit

 

[wootoom]

the first cycle i did...i felt like the test dose was too low because i wasnt really satisfied with the gains i made...so i decided to bump it up a bit

Jesus at them doses? Are you sure it was legit gear? Damn i took 250 to start and gained 12lbs and im 240lbs

 

[bolognese]

holy shit man if i gained 12 pounds off of 250 a week...that would b amazing. the gear i get is from a friend who is an ameatur bodybuilder...he gives me the same stuff he uses. i dont know i guess every body is different :-/

 

[wootoom]

I went up to 500 near the end but never higher than that

 

[Nomak666]

Thanks for the replys...someone told me they had great success in rampin the doses upward throughout the cycle because like anything else your body builds up a tolerance to drugs or medications and more would be needed to achieve certain goals...it made sence to me at the time when he told me that...so thats why i thought i would do it that way...thanks for the advice and answering my questions about hcg!

No disrespect nomak666 but why would you tell me to ramp up the dose of dbol when you told me earlier in your reply not to ramp the dose up of the test or deca?? It sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

because dbol and anadrol have some sides that some may not be able to handle. i get back pumps bad from dbol if i start at 50mg, but your body gets used to it so slowly going up with the dbol dose will most likely get rid of the sides.

test and deca are long ester steroids so they slowly release into your body so you wouldnt need to up the dose for long esters. with short esters, i ramp the doses up as i go through out the cycle, test prop, ill startt at 100mg eod, then go to 150, then 200mg.

orals are different then injects in this case. especially if youre asking us if you should use dbol or anadrol, you must not have used either, so asking us what dose you should use wouldnt help you much. the average dose for dbol is 30-50, for a first time user, you would obviously start at 30mg, once you stop seeing gains, youre obviously going to up the dose, am i right? good luck

 

[Nomak666]

I went up to 500 near the end but never higher than that

me either, i went from 500mg to 750 to 1000. didnt notice any extra gains or strength, only more sides. your body can only use soo much at a time. at 170 pounds, you dont need more then 500mg. i can gain off 250mg too.

 

[bolognese]

ok i understand now...thanks 4 explaining it to me, I appreceiate it

 

[HAYEZ]

wanna bulk dp test and deca and dbol...best bulker there is for a newbie

 

[Nomak666]

wanna bulk dp test and deca and dbol...best bulker there is for a newbie

i agree. best bulk cycle for advanced lifters with cycles under their belt would be to add tren to that cycle, imo.