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2nd cycle Test, Deca Dbol

Hardgainer8119

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I was looking for some opinoins on this next cycle I am planning.
I am 5'11" 150 lbs 9% bf, very active run every morning, and eat right. Been working out for over 5 years.
looking to run
wk 1-8 500mg test E
wk 1-8 250mg-400mg deca
wk 1-5 30mg D-bol

pct Clomide
Nolvadex on hand.

What about running Nolva during the cycle or Armidex?
Thanks
 
we have a similar build im a bit taller and lower bf, but imo drop the clomid, nolva is great and does the same thing, get some pct and yes adex is great for the bloat. maybe even some proviron. your runs are gonna be tough with the dbol but that is a great mass cycle. have fun, get some hcg
 
Ya what Bruce said. I'd do the a-dex while on for the bloat. That cycle is a classic gainer; can't go wrong with it.
 
5'11'' 150lbs... is that a typo? if this is your second cycle how much were u before u started? how old are you? i think at 5'11'' you should be at least 200 before starting to cycle,. imo. but if u want to do it... 10 weeks test 500.. deca 400 and 30mgs of dbol for 4 weeks will be a good 2nd cycle . that is exactly my second cycle.
 
Bruce hit it about the runs. Good luck Bro. I tried to run a few times during the dbol part of my cycle, and that really didn't work calves felt like they'd explode after a quarter mile. Only cardio that was even an option was the heavy bag.
 
hardgainer i am also a hardgainer, just wondering what did you weigh when u started your first, and how much were you able to put on naturally before that. like i have a 28 inch waist and tiny joints and frame plus i'm 5% naturally so i am only pushin 165, but i was only 125 full grown and got to 145 natty, it was after 4 more years of almost puking every morning trying to pound calories that i went to gear, and it works, for some of us ecto's gear is truly a miracle drug as long as we eat right. at 150 though you could really just run some test or test and dbol like sweed and you should be good to go. save the deca for when you need that much gear to grow, just my opinion and by most standards i am too small to be using gear
 
Well 5'11" and 150 is not a typo, before I joined the military I weighed 125lb at age of 18 after a few yearsof the military and working out I got up to 135lbs, I took my first cycle dbol and test and got up to 155lbs but lost some due to improper pct adn advice from others. Now time to get back in to it I have a very high metabolism, at one time I was taking in like 6000 calories a day and still couldn't gain much weight. I am hoping to get some gains on this next cycle. I think i might purchase some liquidex from ag guys heard good things. What do you all think?
bruce410 said:
hardgainer i am also a hardgainer, just wondering what did you weigh when u started your first, and how much were you able to put on naturally before that. like i have a 28 inch waist and tiny joints and frame plus i'm 5% naturally so i am only pushin 165, but i was only 125 full grown and got to 145 natty, it was after 4 more years of almost puking every morning trying to pound calories that i went to gear, and it works, for some of us ecto's gear is truly a miracle drug as long as we eat right. at 150 though you could really just run some test or test and dbol like sweed and you should be good to go. save the deca for when you need that much gear to grow, just my opinion and by most standards i am too small to be using gear
 
yea get liquid adex and nolva. read up in the pct forum. its a pain eating like a cow and not getting bigger i feel you
 
anything for the dreaded deca gyno bro, cause that would suck then if you got it with nothing for it... :worried:
 
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