2nd cycle for newbie

[Addcd2gains]

So when I did my first cycle I was completely oblivious to almost everything. I had no idea what I was taking (tren/sust) I just bought the gear from a dude at the gym. I told him it was my first cycle and he still have me the tren. Well anyway, I got huge! I mean like 20 lbs in 3 weeks! But than I tore my rotator cuff and just stopped everything without pct. Needless to say I lost all my gains. I got my bloodwork done and the doctor was very worried that my white blood cell count was 10,000. First question: it's that normal? I felt fine. Second question: I wanna do the same stack again, but is that advised? Still being a newbie? I mean I know that my body reacted fine with the compounds, but is there any other reason I should just run a test only cycle? Also, for pct (assuming I run the tren acetate at 50mg a day + sust at 500 a week m,w,f. For 12 weeks) then 2 weeks clean, then clomid cycle: 150mg day 1, 100/day 7 days, 50mg/day 14 days.

Thoughts? I'm sure I've missed something, or am not totally correct in my pct. Should I run anything with the cycle to prevent the lactating thing lol
I was thinking forma stanzol and n2 guard

Also, anybody have any diet suggestions?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[EZ_E]

You answered your own question.....

"I was completely oblivious to almost everything"

You know that was a BAD idea for a 1st cycle, you got scammed, and yet you're asking if you should set up the same cycle?

 

[Addcd2gains]

Well I was thinking that people said not to do tren cause it's way too heavy and you may not be able to predict how it affects your body.. now I know that my body took to it pretty well so it's it advised to use it again? I freakin love the compound...doesn't really matter for like 3 months, I've got a fair amount of fatty to shed before I go on a bulking cycle.. I'm just planning ahead this time.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[EZ_E]

IMO starting fresh is the best protocol here.....when the time is right (glad to hear you say that) go with test only with the right OCT & PCT

 

[Addcd2gains]

Any specific test you would recommend? Is sustanon optimal if not stacked? Is there a better stand alone test to take?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[infraredline]

Any specific test you would recommend? Is sustanon optimal if not stacked? Is there a better stand alone test to take?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

Run test propionate. I always prefer short esters.

What is your pct going to be OP?

 

[Addcd2gains]

Forma stanzol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[Addcd2gains]

Run test propionate. I always prefer short esters.

What is your pct going to be OP?

Wait, pct OP? What's op? I'm gonna ruin forma stanzol on cycle and Clomid 25/25/25/25 after 10 weeks

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[Essie]

OP = Original Poster ... i.e you. Then, the 2 mildest Test esters available (mild refering NOT to strength, but to easo of injection and the gradual build up in the system) is Cypionate and Enanthate. I always advise my guys to start on one of those 2. Many people advocate Sustanon, but then don't even know how to properly run it themselves. Personally, of all compounds we have at our disposal, I would say I dislike Sust the most.

 

[Addcd2gains]

OP = Original Poster ... i.e you. Then, the 2 mildest Test esters available (mild refering NOT to strength, but to easo of injection and the gradual build up in the system) is Cypionate and Enanthate. I always advise my guys to start on one of those 2. Many people advocate Sustanon, but then don't even know how to properly run it themselves. Personally, of all compounds we have at our disposal, I would say I dislike Sust the most.

I've heard good things about test e... that it's great for toning.. would the test c be better for bulking?

My goal is to get to 15%bf and then continue rigorous cardio and start the cycle with a fat burner and forma stanzol. I want to bulk as much as possible once I get to 15% ... I'm still tempted to stack dianabol or tren... just cause I know what it did for me last time

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

 

[bonacris]

I've heard good things about test e... that it's great for toning.. would the test c be better for bulking?


Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness

Test Cyp and E are practically the same. One is not better for " toning " than another



Sent from my GT-N7100 using EliteFitness

 

[Addcd2gains]

Sent from my GT-N7100 using EliteFitness

Huh?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using EliteFitness