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2nd Cycle Dbol/Winny

dosteov

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Just finished a first 12 week cycle (test/eq). I saw some good gains and am now planning for my second one. First question is how long should I wait before I go back on? Second question is I really want to add some mass 5'10 170 pound (not sure how much body fat, i would guess about 14%). I'm thinking about running:

Dbol 20-30mg ed weeks 1-4
Winny 50 mg ed weekes 1-12

What do you guys think?

Should I add some test to it?

Thanks in advanceguys...
 
The standard thing to do is take same time off as you were on. Just curious about your gains after 1st cycle, coz 170 seems a bit low. Whats ya diet like? Have you done PCT after ya first cycle?

Mick
 
Well I'm actually about 185 and am starting PCT tomorrow HCG (don't ask me why the hell I said 170, that's what I was before I started). I've been on an anti-e also. I've also probably haven't eaten as much as I should have because I didn't want my stomach to get any bigger then it is. I still ate alot though...

One bad side effect I got was that my sex drive collapesed after like week 5. Not sure why this happened...

Raffaz said:
The standard thing to do is take same time off as you were on. Just curious about your gains after 1st cycle, coz 170 seems a bit low. Whats ya diet like? Have you done PCT after ya first cycle?

Mick
 
Both compounds are 17aa's - I would not do that plan you have. I don't like it.

First you need to finish PCT and take 10 weeks off after your PCT is over. Get a blood test done to make sure your are fully recovered before you start again.

Always run test as a base to any cycle. What is your goal for the next cycle?
 
dosteov said:
Well I'm actually about 185 and am starting PCT tomorrow HCG (don't ask me why the hell I said 170, that's what I was before I started). I've been on an anti-e also. I've also probably haven't eaten as much as I should have because I didn't want my stomach to get any bigger then it is. I still ate alot though...

One bad side effect I got was that my sex drive collapesed after like week 5. Not sure why this happened...

Ive never had any problems with libido while on EQ. Other bros maybe to help you there. What dosages where you using?

Mick
 
Sorry about that guys. I had to go check out an apartment to rent.

I was on 500mg of Test and 400mg of EQ. The first couple of weeks I was having the best sex of my life. Then it collapsed, came back again then collapsed. It sucks really. Thank God for freaking viagra. I'm dating a new girl too so you know what that's like.

How bout this cycle.

Dbol weeks 1-4
Test weeks 1-12
Winny weeks 6/7-12

Thanks again guys. This board rocks!!
 
My goal is to bulk up without really going up in BF. Ideally I would want to loose 2-3% BF without compromising any of my gains.

black sheep said:
Both compounds are 17aa's - I would not do that plan you have. I don't like it.

First you need to finish PCT and take 10 weeks off after your PCT is over. Get a blood test done to make sure your are fully recovered before you start again.

Always run test as a base to any cycle. What is your goal for the next cycle?
 
dosteov said:
My goal is to bulk up without really going up in BF. Ideally I would want to loose 2-3% BF without compromising any of my gains.


From your goals it sounds like you should run the same cycle you just did. Get your diet and training down to a SCIENCE and that is THE BEST simple clean bulk cycle out there.
 
Yeah but I don't want my sex drive to crash like it did.

What about the same cycle, except add Dbol the first 4 weeks?

DiamondCutCows said:
From your goals it sounds like you should run the same cycle you just did. Get your diet and training down to a SCIENCE and that is THE BEST simple clean bulk cycle out there.
 
dosteov said:
Yeah but I don't want my sex drive to crash like it did.

What about the same cycle, except add Dbol the first 4 weeks?

I'll be running that EXACT cycle for 24 weeks very soon. Its a wonder. I think the seex drive was mental honestly. I've never met someone who wasnt a machine on Test
 
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