2nd Cycle all the Pro's Please Advise

[Nick1974]

first cycle was:

11 weeks of 400mg of deca per week
30 shots of Winny 50mg EOD
and about 250 IU of GH 2-4 IU ED

Stats 5' 11'' and 28 Years old

before 1st cycle 178 # and about 9%

I'm the first one to admit that i did not do my homework, but the result were very impressive a huge increase in strengs gained 30# and a %2 decrease in body fat.

3 1/2 weeks post cycle and maintaining about 21# i will run clomid for 3 more weeks.

My questions:

How long to wait before the 2nd cycle?
Whats the best cycle for muscle gain please specify weeks and quantity. (thinking EQ, SUS, DBOL)?
is the gain from a second cycle usually as good as the first or not?
Should i run GH again or my gain from my first cycle was mostly due to AS and no need to waist the money?

Thank you in advance

 

[lawnsaver]

I think a nice fina/winny/prop cycle will work well!!

week 1 to 8: 75mg fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg Winny ED
Week 1 to 8: 50-100mg prop ED
Week 7-8: 500ius HCG ED
Week 1 to 12: .5mg L-dex EOD
Week 9 to 11: clomid therapy

 

[Nick1974]

How long should i wait between cycles?

 

[Golfer18--old]

I like that cycle Lawnsaver just posted. Rule of thumb is time on= time off.

 

[Nick1974]

Golfer
What about the gain? do you think it would be less than the first cycle.

 

[lawnsaver]

This will be a different type of cycle. You just bulked. This is more of a solid gain with less water retention. You should keep diet high in protien, but cut cals a little. This will give you a more harder looking look.

 

[Canuck4]

I like Lawnsavers cycle.
You aint gonna gain big mass like your previous cycles but it will all be quality and hard looking gains.

 

[Counterstrike]

test prop would be good on its own I think its better stronger mg per mg 250-300 a week for novice will work well up to 3-4 cycles

 

[Nick1974]

What about EQ i really wanted to try it, i was interested in its effect on the appetite

 

[Nick1974]

Bump for more Advise

 

[Metal Gear]

What's up Nick!

Man, like I told you when I saw you last, EQ sucks! If you are looking for big gains than scratch it out. I didn't feel that much of a gain in appetite. When I was on A-50 and Test., man, did I eat like a horse. The cycle that these guys are talking about is the one I did right before I went to Vegas for memorial weekend, and you saw how hard I was. That's probably the best I have ever been, but you better be ready to be a pin cusion, and get used to site injections, because you won't be able to fit all that in your ass! It's a good cycle to put on quality muscle, but don't expect big gains as your first one. The first cycle is always the best. This is what I would recommend if you want to blow up quick, now the trick is to know when to start clomid at the end to keep your gains. Last time I did this cycle I put on 25 lb.s and lost only 5 lbs.

week 1-5 Anadrol 50 50mg ed 1st week 100 mg thereafter
week 1-12 Test. Enth. or cyp 800 mg -1000 mg
week 6-12 Fina 50 mg ed

take vitex & liquidex throughout the whole cycle, HCG 10,000 iU half way into the cycle and 10,000 iu at the end. Clomid therapy starts 2 weeks after your last shot of Test.

This is a simple and easy cycle that's guaranteed to put on size. Remeber that you alwasy need to have a Test. in there somewhere no matter bulking up or cutting up.

BTW this is your GHB partner!! hint hint

 

[serge]

Re: What's up Nick!

Man, like I told you when I saw you last, EQ sucks! If you are looking for big gains than scratch it out. I didn't feel that much of a gain in appetite. When I was on A-50 and Test., man, did I eat like a horse. The cycle that these guys are talking about is the one I did right before I went to Vegas for memorial weekend, and you saw how hard I was. That's probably the best I have ever been, but you better be ready to be a pin cusion, and get used to site injections, because you won't be able to fit all that in your ass! It's a good cycle to put on quality muscle, but don't expect big gains as your first one. The first cycle is always the best. This is what I would recommend if you want to blow up quick, now the trick is to know when to start clomid at the end to keep your gains. Last time I did this cycle I put on 25 lb.s and lost only 5 lbs.

week 1-5 Anadrol 50 50mg ed 1st week 100 mg thereafter
week 1-12 Test. Enth. or cyp 800 mg -1000 mg
week 6-12 Fina 50 mg ed

take vitex & liquidex throughout the whole cycle, HCG 10,000 iU half way into the cycle and 10,000 iu at the end. Clomid therapy starts 2 weeks after your last shot of Test.

This is a simple and easy cycle that's guaranteed to put on size. Remeber that you alwasy need to have a Test. in there somewhere no matter bulking up or cutting up.

BTW this is your GHB partner!! hint hint

WOW, thats alot of gear for a second cycle

 

[Nick1974]

Thanks Metal Gear, i know the cycle Lawnsaver is great, but i just wana keep some option open just incase i couldn't get my hand on any Fina.

So scratch EQ, what about D-bol or GH

 

[lawnsaver]

EQ is by far one of the best substances out there. Dont let anyone tell you different.

What are your goals?? Remember you will never make gains like you did in your first cycle!!

600mg of EQ with 50mg of proviron ED for 10-12 weeks would be killer!!

 

[Nick1974]

Lawnsaver Now you broke my hard by saying "You will never make gains like you did in your first cycle"

My goal is gain gain and more gain. I think its more in my head but since i was 17 i was 110 5'11 i wanted size so bad, and now i'm 28 and 200 and still not enaugh. Dont take me wrong i like my vains and my abs to stay as good, but the scale man i hate the dam scale.

I really wana do a good clean final cycle, because their is no way i could convince my wife anymore. Money is not a big concern i'm worried more about quality.

 

[Metal Gear]

Nick, if you want to make big gains like your first cycle, then you have to increase your dosage. Lets say if you did the same cycle that you did the first time, you would probably gain only 1/2 or 2/3 of what you gained the first time. That's why you have to take it to the next level. GH is good, but it serostim that you used, it's mostly effective for fat loss and hardening, if you really want to make gains with GH, plan on doing at least 3 kits in the next 2 months, that means over 4 i.us ed for bulking cycle. For cutting you can get away with less but it's alittle different for bulking.

Fina is really easy to get a hold of. Just emial me and I'll let you know where to get the kits from and the pellets. I'll help you through the process if you want. I've make it quiete a few times. It's very cheap and effective. I would say it's my favorite gear overall. It can bulk you and tighten you up at the same time. After doing it, you're doing to want to have it in every cycle, thereafter.