2nd Cycle Advice

[Tallguy1]

I am in the last week of a 10 week Test E cycle. This is my first cycle. I kick started the first 4 wks with Dbol, but weeks 1-10 have been 350mg. of Test E. each week. I started at 6'3", 230 and right now I'm at 242 lbs.

In week 9, I thought my nipples were getting a little sore, so I've started taking 40mg ED Nolva and 1.25mg ED letro. That problem seems to be gone now. In a couple weeks I'll start regular PCT with Nolva, and plan my 2nd cycle. I am thinking of something like this for a second cycle...

Test E (or C) 250 mg. 1-10 weeks
Eq 400 mg. - 1-10 weeks

My goal is to bulk up to over 250 lbs. while getting as strong as possible. Does this cycle sound OK? I want to keep the Test a little low cause of the nipple thing. Should I add a AI, and/or Nolva for the duration of the cycle? If so, how much? Also, would Winny be a good addition to this cycle or is that too much?

 

[swordfish151]

I am in the last week of a 10 week Test E cycle. This is my first cycle. I kick started the first 4 wks with Dbol, but weeks 1-10 have been 350mg. of Test E. each week. I started at 6'3", 230 and right now I'm at 242 lbs.

In week 9, I thought my nipples were getting a little sore, so I've started taking 40mg ED Nolva and 1.25mg ED letro. That problem seems to be gone now. In a couple weeks I'll start regular PCT with Nolva, and plan my 2nd cycle. I am thinking of something like this for a second cycle...

Test E (or C) 250 mg. 1-10 weeks
Eq 400 mg. - 1-10 weeks

My goal is to bulk up to over 250 lbs. while getting as strong as possible. Does this cycle sound OK? I want to keep the Test a little low cause of the nipple thing. Should I add a AI, and/or Nolva for the duration of the cycle? If so, how much? Also, would Winny be a good addition to this cycle or is that too much?

For your second cycle I would bump the test to 500mgs, I understand your concern with gyno, but you can take nolva, AIFM for that during. As far as the EQ you want to up the weeks to at least 12 or 14 weeks.

 

[Bruce]

eq for 12-14 like he said, might even wanna use 600mg of eq as well, but for second 400 should yield decent results.

 

[boxerjake]

I agree ... throw in some var for strength and to solidify your gains inplace of d-bol if you like for the second run ..

 

[Tallguy1]

OK, so how about this ...

500mg Test E.
500mg Eq.
50mg Winny ED

If I added Winny, should I do it at the start of the cycle, or end?

 

[narshh]

For your second cycle I would bump the test to 500mgs, I understand your concern with gyno, but you can take nolva, AIFM for that during. As far as the EQ you want to up the weeks to at least 12 or 14 weeks.

Why what happens between 10 and 12 - 14 weeks?

 

[slat1]

I will leave the doses to the other guys. I always used small amounts.
I would start using HCG during your cycles. It is huge. If I ever use AAS again I would not cycle without it!!!

 

[Mr.X]

OK, so how about this ...

500mg Test E.
500mg Eq.

If I added Winny, should I do it at the start of the cycle, or end?

IMO just the test and EQ is a fine cycle. Winny is an add-on you don't need.

 

[Tallguy1]

Update: I am in the first week of my PCT now... But because of the gyno scare, i've been taking Nolva and Letro for over 3 weeks now...

Anyway, I am down to 235 lbs already. I don't know if I'll be able to keep this last 5 lbs or not now. Maybe it was all water, I don't know. But all in all, I am pretty disappointed with the results for my first cycle. I had hoped to gain more. I had made sure my training and diet was in order the whole 10 weeks, and strictly adhered to the program. I can only assume 350 mg/wk of Test E. was just not enough to make decent gains???

I had done 4 or 5 cycles of prohormones in years past.... does anyone think that could also have affected my results? I'd really like to try this again with higher dosages.

 

[swordfish151]

Why what happens between 10 and 12 - 14 weeks?

You get more bang for your buck if you run EQ longer then 12 weeks.

 

[immortalis]

eq for 12-14 like he said, might even wanna use 600mg of eq as well, but for second 400 should yield decent results.

Im with SwordFish and Bruce on this one.

running EQ for less than 12 weeks is just a waste of money.

 

[Tallguy1]

OK, thats fine. I'll do this...

Test E - 500mg/weeks 1-12
Eq. - 500mg/weeks 1-12

How does that sound for a 2nd cycle? .... And I should not add Winny at the end for 4 wks of 50mg/ED??? I want to see some results after this first cycle fiasco.