Bottom Line is........You are all genetically deficient. This is why you constantly preach your more is better theories. While the course outlined is relatively a weak one, it will do something. More so is the fact that this guy has never taken anything before, ever. He wants 10-15 lbs. He will definitely make gains in this range. All of you remind me of the bloated little zit-bags that roam around my gym. You weigh 170lbs and walk with your arms out like you're carrying a couple of watermelons. You walk with your legs so wide that I originally thought it was because you were afraid that if two sticks rubbed together, a fire might start. In fact you do this to portray large legs. Perhaps it is my fault for posting on a board so obviously inhabited largely by know-nothing wannabes. Fortunately, this board does have a few, a very few who know of which they speak. They know who they are.