20weeks to much?

[Voijn]

hey guys
a friend of mine wants to run
500mg of test e for 22weeks with Eq at 750 for 20weeks
1-6 Dbol dunno dose
1-22 500mg test e EW
1-20 750mg eq EW

He is no near being pro, yeah he does have some mass and experience. But is this cycle to long and aggresiv?

 

[C.K.]

once you stop getting gains you should stop your cycle there's really no point in going any furthur as long as he's using hcg and making gains why not?

 

[Nighthawkk]

EQ does work it's magic at upwards of 14-16 weeks in my experience, so I see no reason not to run it for 20. Like CK said, have that hcg on hand and run it mid-cycle and blast it at the end before PCT for a better recovery. Your PCT will be longer of course, but there's no reason you can't keep a good amount of gains from this

 

[wootoom]

It depends on your body. I could run for 20 weeks and still gain. Plus sex drive is up, make sure proper PCT is in place when coming off..I like Proviron while going that long also.

 

[stevesmi]

the longer you run your cycle and higher dosages, the longer it will take to recover.

I prefer to run 2 cycles per year that are roughly 10 weeks TOTAL..that means I am juiced 20 weeks out of the year and off 32 weeks and gain natty. with all the supps out there like unleashed/bridge/gear/powerchews that NTBM sells you can still make gains and those will NOT suppress your HPTA. one day I will go on and stay on but for now I prefer to be conservative and protect my HPTA.

you can even run something like beastdrol for 4 weeks in there as well which would mean 3 cycles per year.

building muscle takes time. everyone is in a rush. plenty of guys in my gym are in their 40's and look great, the strongest guys in fact are in their 40's at my gym. so you guys in your early 20's who are in a rush need to realize that.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I agree with steve. i personally would experiment and spend some money on the legal supplements at the store before turning to gear. There are so many potent products that get banned within their first year that you can get your hands on. The other thing is surpressing your natural test level for that long at a young age, and your gonna be shooting test when your in your 40's perscribed. Id say 14-16 weeks at tops. 5 months is a long time bro. And eventually your body is going to plateau a bit from it. Make sure you keep your proper AIs and Get proper PCT.... Should get a nice 25 lbs with 8 whole meals a day and good diet...

Not sure who said it but stopping a cycle when your done seeing gains is a great point... Dont up the dose, wait for the next and start with the dose up
!
Good luck bro
JOhnny

 

[UA_Iron]

If he's gonna run 20+ weeks I'd cycle in some more compounds or continue to up the test dose throughout.

1-6 dbol
6-12 tbol
20-24 winny

 

[topasch]

Nighthawk, how exactly would you run the HCG in a cycle of this length. You said mid-cycle and blast at the end... just wondered how exactly you'd do it. Thanks

 

[wootoom]

Proviron is great for long cycles

 

[daveyboy2345]

If he's gonna run 20+ weeks I'd cycle in some more compounds or continue to up the test dose throughout.

1-6 dbol
6-12 tbol
20-24 winny

x2.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Nighthawk, how exactly would you run the HCG in a cycle of this length. You said mid-cycle and blast at the end... just wondered how exactly you'd do it. Thanks

I'd start 250iu HCG once every 5-7 days in Weeks 8-18, then increase to 1000iu HCG E3D for Week 19-22 and begin clomid/nolv PCT in Week 23 (3 weeks after last jab). Clomid @ 100mg ED Week 1, 50mg Week 2-4; Nolvadex 40mg ED Week 1-6. Of course there are variations on this, but this worked for me when I did Test/EQ for close to 18 weeks.