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20 yr old help with cycle & GYNO!

tommygunz

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i am in the middle of a 12 week cycle that looks like this:
week 1 500mgs Sust/ 400 mgs Deca
week 2 500mgs Sust/ 400 mgs Deca
week 3 500mgs Sust/ 400 mgs Deca/ 20mg Dball per day
week 4 500mgs Sust/ 400 mgs Deca/ 20mg Dball per day
week 5 500mgs Sust/ 400 mgs Deca/ 20mg Dball per day
week 6 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ/ 20 mg d baall per day
week 7 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ/ 20 mg d baall per day
week 8 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ/ 20 mg d baall per day
week 9 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ
week10 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ
week11 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ
week12 500mgs Omnadren/ 400 mgs EQ
im currently on week 6 about to start the omnadrens. I started noticing soreness in my left nipple, and can feel a little lump about the size of a rasin. My nipples have ALWAYS been puffy and swollen since i was a little kid. I used to think it was just fat, but after doing some research i think it actually might have been mammary tissue all along. I guess this means my estrogen levels are high and my body is sensitive to androgens. I have some arimidex and nolvadex on the way but i want to know if it is too late? Will those help me decrease my estrogen levels? Also i should note that i am only 20 years old. This will be the last time i use test for a while cuz i think im too young to really get the benefit from it. Is the cycle ok the way i wrote it out, or should i stagger the dosses so i come off gradually? Also would you guys suggest adding clomid at the end to bring back my natural test? Sorry for the long post, but i need alot of help here. Please help if you can.
 
damn bro. this early?? how long have you been training before doing aas??? i would stop. train naturally tell your at least 23
 
u do know that sust and omna's are the same thing , right start takin nolva 20- 40 mgs a day
 
i hope to god that more young newbies read this and take it as a prime example for research. i'm not flaming you bro but being that you were able to research the puffy nipples that you've always had and came up with answers...thats how you should've researched doing a cycle...like i said...not flaming you but you dont even know how to do PCT.

1st: you're taking both test and dbol...yes you need nolvadex. arimidex with keep the gyno from becoming a problem and nolvadex will is a cure for the problem. i would recommend 40mg/day until the symptoms go away then 20mg/day for the duration of the cycle (or as needed).

2nd: no you don't have to taper down the test or the EQ. take it as planned for the duration of cycle

3rd: clomid? definately. though you should research HCG too. you are putting test, deca, dbol and eq into this cycle. thats a lot of different esters for a young kid. are your balls shrunk yet? my bet is if you arent shut down yet...you will be soon. go to the PCT section of EF and check out the stickies on top.

good luck and even though you are already into it...dont stop the research. and remember...all the bros here are here to help.
 
Sweed said:
u do know that sust and omna's are the same thing , right start takin nolva 20- 40 mgs a day

With the gyno alrady there I would start the Nolva around 60-100mg a day
 
DiamondCutCows said:
With the gyno alrady there I would start the Nolva around 60-100mg a day

Yeah, if you've already got gyno you, I would do 100mg ED until it's gone. And for god's sake, please research PCT, please or otherwise you are gonna fuck yourself up bad.
 
If you're using Sust, your dbol should be used in the beginning to help kick start the cycle. Sust is a mix of fast / slow acting esters, so the dbol gives you that jump start because the slow acting esters don't kick in till around week 3.

IMO you're taking way to much shit for your first cycle. 500mg Sust weeks 1-10 + 30mg of dbol weeks 1-6 would have been plenty.

While there's no arguing that Test + Deca + dbol is the king of all mass builders, there's also no arguing that if you don't have your anti-e's on hand BEFORE you start something like this, you're going to end up in the situation you're currently in. Hopefully you're not too far along to reverse the damage. Keep us posted.
 
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