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2 questions from beginner

ARMed n' Dangerous said:
which test is better for a beginner?

which guage should I use?

test
deca
hcg
nolvadex
clomid

Test E, 1.5 22 gauge, read other posts and do your research. If not, you shouldnt play the game.
 
ARMed n' Dangerous said:
which test is better for a beginner?

which guage should I use?

test
deca
hcg
nolvadex
clomid


Enth or cyp... What dosage are you running and how often?
And how do you plan to run your PCT?
25g 1.5 works best for me if you heat the vial up a little.
20g 1.5 to draw.
 
16 gauge should be interesting and add a little spice to a cycle.

The gauge one would prefer to use would depend on what one is using it for. I wouldn't use a 1.5" 22g for a subq HCG shot, for example.

Why did you post up a shopping list of compounds after your question?

If you want more info, in general, go read the stickies and state your age, training experience, goals, chubbiness, diet, etc.
 
I'm impressed. A newbie actually asking what to take before he starts his cycle instead of 3 weeks into it. Ironically he's probably only 13 yrs old and hasn't matured enough to be so retarded yet.
 
For a beginner i wouldnt go with Test E, the sides are too much unless you are over the age of 21 then Test E is the best. But if your younger id go with sustanon.

for a need i think 22 or 23 gauge 1.5 inch

and guys i think he is posting his cycle. and his PCT. He just doesnt know what doses and shit like that.

state your history and well help you out a bit more.
 
Top-Notch said:
For a beginner i wouldnt go with Test E, the sides are too much unless you are over the age of 21 then Test E is the best. But if your younger id go with sustanon.

So with that being said my 14 yr old brother should use Sustanon to improve his skateboarding and junk food eating skills and avoid sides? You are a wealth of knowledge and a great asset to this board. :rolleyes:
 
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For a beginner i wouldnt go with Test E, the sides are too much unless you are over the age of 21 then Test E is the best. But if your younger id go with sustanon.


Wow... Spoken like a true vet.....

Bro if you don't know... don't give out advice.. they are drugs... Sustanon is test.. Enanthate is test.. Cyp is test... Prop and Suspension are test.. Its just the ester retard..

Im 26 what can i use??????
 
how do you tell someone what size needle they should use when you dont even know there body size or where they will be injecting? or there age?
 
and if the guy is a beginner why even use? or does he mean new to gear? if he's new to gear why not just use test without the deca? and see how his body reacts to one compound. if he gets bad sides how will he know if it was the test or deca if hes using both?
 
Top-Notch said:
For a beginner i wouldnt go with Test E, the sides are too much unless you are over the age of 21 then Test E is the best. But if your younger id go with sustanon.

for a need i think 22 or 23 gauge 1.5 inch

and guys i think he is posting his cycle. and his PCT. He just doesnt know what doses and shit like that.

state your history and well help you out a bit more.
bro come on thats shitty advice..i think that...under 21...u shouldnt even touch the stuff..thats stupid advice..
 
thats it, i'm fucking tired of it. i'm bombing everyone of the fucking posts that are just so out in left field from here on out. anyone else wants to join me, so be it, if not bomb's away!!

this shit is getting out of hand!!
 
Top-Notch said:
For a beginner i wouldnt go with Test E, the sides are too much unless you are over the age of 21 then Test E is the best. But if your younger id go with sustanon.

for a need i think 22 or 23 gauge 1.5 inch

and guys i think he is posting his cycle. and his PCT. He just doesnt know what doses and shit like that.

state your history and well help you out a bit more.
one of the dumbest posts i have read....

dont give any advice to anyone...anymore!

if you say that for under 21 sus is safer then Eth...
Sus is a 4 blend (ester) Test. Eth has one ester...eth.
 
This one made me sad.

What is going on here the last few days. Everyday there is one of these dumb ass posts. Just taking up bandwith..

WTF

-NP
 
I've been away from the board for a while. Funny thing is, these posts never stop being posted. It's like I hadn't ever left!
 
under 21? dam! do not use gear! i repeat! do not use gear!

eat and train and rest and repeat for some years! :)
 
Sorry this topic stirred up so much stuff. I'll try to be brief with my responses. First, I appreciate everyone willing to help me. I been on the board about 3 weeks I posted a fairly long post/intro/bio so I didn't list it this time. here it is in short- 5'9, 183, approx. 10%bf want to maintain 195-200-not afraid of getting too big!! (I'm not the"I don't wanna get to big guy") 195-200 is just a forseeable goal for right now. To answer some of the other questions from above-- I'm new to gear I've been lifting since highschool. I'm 30yrs old. I'm a personal trainer. Pretty good genes--dad placed in some bb shows. I listed the gear I think I'm gonna use because I figured that would effect the guage. I didn't list any doses because I read the newbie post and have been reading other post/responses so I got those questions answered. One person mentioned just doing test not test/deca so I would know the effects and I have been weighing that one out because that's what I was thinking but a lot of people here have suggested test and deca. Regardless I'm not over-anxious(although I am excited) to do the stuff to the point where I make a bad decision. I plan to take my time a do more research.
 
this is my advice and its just my opinion...but if you have never done any gear before it would be wise to start with just one anabolic compound...if you do the 2 together you will never know wich anabolic did what or wich worked better or wich caused a nasty side effect if they even do?...try a test cycle first and see how your body reacts...then in the future you can always add another anabolic...alot of bro's have gotten great results on test only cycles...first time cycles usually bring great results with just 1 anabolic compound...why waste it?...good luck!
 
16 gauge should be interesting and add a little spice to a cycle.


Wonderful,





Okay, Beginner,





You are a trainer, so you know about diet, sleep, eating and training.

Now just study gear, needles, injections PCT, Anti-E, gear supplements, not workout supplements,


Anyway, you get the point you need to prepare much more before you do that first cycle.


Which I would recommend


Deca 400mg per week weeks 1-12
Test E 400mg per week Weeks 1-12

With pct, with anti E


With all of the above you should easily gain 15 lbs of muscle, after you lose your water and fat.
 
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