2 questions about kick starting a cycle?!

[squat till ya drop]

1 - I am planning on doing a standard cycle next year. Either 400/500 mg of a slow ester per week. If you only start seeing gains over a month into the cycle, that would frustrate the hell outa me. Could I not just kick start with low dose turanabol or dbol??? Bearing in mind its my first cycle....


Question number 2 - and probably a silly question to some of u ... But if say I theoretically kick start the cycle with dbol, then would I experience low libido or erectile dysfunction after a shot while, EVEN tho it would be run along side the test. Because if the test takes 5 weeks to 'kick in' does that mean it starts actually WORKING at that time, OR, it means thats the muscle and strength building properties become noticeable. Basically if u ran an oral only cycle it would be suppressive to the hpta, and u would experience side effects. So does running test and oral at the same time cancel the suppressive side effects straight away ???

 

[RickRock13]

Stats first please

 

[squat till ya drop]

Sorry mate.

Almost 23, 6'1, typical hardgainer, 205 lbs. Approx 14% BF. Good diet, want to wait for next year until I absolutely perfect my diet and training. lifting 3 years

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[dylangemelli]

1 - I am planning on doing a standard cycle next year. Either 400/500 mg of a slow ester per week. If you only start seeing gains over a month into the cycle, that would frustrate the hell outa me. Could I not just kick start with low dose turanabol or dbol??? Bearing in mind its my first cycle....


Question number 2 - and probably a silly question to some of u ... But if say I theoretically kick start the cycle with dbol, then would I experience low libido or erectile dysfunction after a shot while, EVEN tho it would be run along side the test. Because if the test takes 5 weeks to 'kick in' does that mean it starts actually WORKING at that time, OR, it means thats the muscle and strength building properties become noticeable. Basically if u ran an oral only cycle it would be suppressive to the hpta, and u would experience side effects. So does running test and oral at the same time cancel the suppressive side effects straight away ???

you most definitely can and should run a kickstart to your test cycle... dependent upon what your goals are will determine what you should run... if your looking at a bulking cycle then dbol or beastdrol is a good choice... tbol is a great choice to kickstart a lean cycle...

you are going to want to run hcg or hcgenerate in your test cycle to help prevent loss of libido and to help to keep you less suppressed going into pct...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Almost any oral is fine for a kickstart. The idea is to be as anabolic as possible right from the start and any oral will do that.

 

[gymjunkie09]

yep something like this would get you some great gains...

Test e 500mg/week 1-12
Beastdrol 20-30mg/ed 1-4
N2GAURD 7 caps ed 1-4 minimum
HCGENERATE 5 caps ed 6-14

A.I. OF CHOICE AS NEEDED, ALWAYS HAVE LETRO ON HAND

pct
POST CYCLE/UNLEASHED COMBO 14-18
FORMA 5 PUMPS AM 5 PUMPS PM 14-18

FOLLOW WITH BRIDGE

 

[squat till ya drop]

Thanks for your respose. I would like to run hcg throughout, but its a huge effort. For example pinning Eod, mixing and storing, and getting hold of pharm grade stuff plus bacs water is a pain. Could I even run hcgenerate through the entire cycle? It's alot of pills tho, if kick starting and using an ai also. Im not sure if needto send to the UK ?

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[dylangemelli]

Thanks for your respose. I would like to run hcg throughout, but its a huge effort. For example pinning Eod, mixing and storing, and getting hold of pharm grade stuff plus bacs water is a pain. Could I even run hcgenerate through the entire cycle? It's alot of pills tho, if kick starting and using an ai also. Im not sure if needto send to the UK ?

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here's hcgenerate at predator nutrition in the uk

Need To Build Muscle HCGenerate - Buy Online, Reviews & Deals

if you run a 12 week cycle then run hcgenerate the last 8 weeks up until pct... you don't need to run it from the start... two bottles and your good...

 

[gymjunkie09]

here's hcgenerate at predator nutrition in the uk

Need To Build Muscle HCGenerate - Buy Online, Reviews & Deals

if you run a 12 week cycle then run hcgenerate the last 8 weeks up until pct... you don't need to run it from the start... two bottles and your good...

yep that'll do it, i've us both hcg and hcgenerate and in my experienced feel hcgenerate is a better option

 

[squat till ya drop]

Thanks alot for your input. Good to know I can use hcgenerate , best start saving

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