2 Postworkout Shakes?

[MonStar1023]

I am going to be eating 2 postworkout shakes for the next couple months as stated in Animalbolics... but I am confused as to how I should split up my supplements..

Postworkout #1 (immediately after)
40g whey protein
100g maltodextrin + dextrose combo
5g creatine + 5g glutamine
1.5g arginine
100 mg. ALA

Postworkout #2 (1-2 hours after)
40g whey protein
100g maltodextrin + dextrose combo
5g creatine
1.5g arginine
100 mg. ALA


Does this look alright for replenishing glycogen?

 

[MonStar1023]

bump

 

[D00fy]

bulking?

 

[riskybizz007]

I believe I read on the thread you posted it said the second shake was just of protein alone.

 

[MonStar1023]

riskybizz007-
Yeah its definitely confusing isnt it? Shit I thought the exact same thing until I read it again and again!!


Anyway is that good for spacing out the supplements?

 

[Benzi]

ummmm.. Monstar. You're trying to cut right?
I would seriously have you conside approach cutting in a less radical manner
personaly, i think the diet looks (and probably will tasted (not to mention smell--with 2 protein shakes)) like shit
just my .02

 

[diamonddiceclay]

what you want is ultra fuel by twinlab-it is the right kind of carb source for post workout

 

[riskybizz007]

Monstar, I remember reading that it was protien only on second shake followed by a meal w/ carbs and protein. This would make some sense to me b/c of the following: Your first shake w/ protein/carbs will refuel you glycogen stores and bring back the needed carbs and add protein for growth. Second shake would seem useless for carbs b/c you already replenished your stores. Your meal after the second shake would consist of carbs and protein so you will keep the carbs in your system for energy from now until your next meal w/ carbs again. This is the way i understood it, i mean that's the way i rationalized it, if at all i'm right or not i don't know. You figure each shake will stay in your system for most 2hrs, so at 2 hours you want another quick digested food to maintain anabolism during that 3-4 hour window. After that you can have a solid meal, and that would take much longer to digest. And the reason for carbs on this solid meal is that you aren't going to have carbs i believe till tommorow. The carbs will keep you going and prevent muscle wasting as energy. At least that's the way i see it. Who really knows lol. But in my mind it makes sense to me

 

[riskybizz007]

Monstar, on an added note, i went through the same shit you did w/ that article. I had to reread it a few times b/c of how confusing it is. I think it has to do w/ it being a bit unorthodox, now what we're used to kind of theory you know?

 

[macDbol]

interesting,,but i'll be farting my ass off all day long if i go with two shakes back to back

 

[MonStar1023]

Yeah I know its totally confusing.. check it out... I totally thought the same thing riskybizz007 its totally against almost everything I have ever thought/read.

"90KG = 90g carbs after workout.
90/2.5 = 36g protein.
90g carbohydrates = 360 cal.
36g protein = 145 cal protein.

Total immediate intake is 505 calories.

If you do that regimen 1-2 hours later you will then have 1010calories."

That's saying you should have that amount of CALORIES 1-2 hours later but not specifically that many grams of carbs. I am postive he isnt saying to eat 505 calories from protein, thats around 125g!! Then again in this next quote the author states the following.

"Outline: Protein Carbs Fat Cals
2 Post-workout shakes each at 36 90 0 505"

Here is simply says to take in 2 postworkout shakes, and in his sample meal plan...

"Outline: Protein Carbs Fat Cals
Pre-Workout
~1:30 16oz OJ 0 51 0
Post-Workout #1
~immeadiately after Shake 36 90 0
Post-Workout #2
~1-2hrs later Shake 36 90 0"

Here he's saying that you should have the exact same thing that you had postworkout 1-2 hours later and then for dinner..

"Dinner 4oz Ground Sirloin 32 0 17
~9:00pm 1oz cheddar 7 0 9
1/2 Potato n/a n/a n/a"

He suggests a combo of complex carbs and protein before bed!! Crazy ass diet huh?

I am keeping my Animalbolics Online Journal in the Training section of Elite.. check it out and crtique.

 

[riskybizz007]

Bro that's what threw me off completely. Complex Carbs before bed? First thought was... "Is this guy nuts" lol, in any case he said you could change the diet to morning carbs if you work out in the morning though. So i guess that would mean breakfast, workout followed by the 2 shakes, complex carbs, then just protein after. Man i don't know... his diet regimen is confusing. Especially b/c he doesn't describe the diet for morning lifters, like myself, and just says "just do the opposite".

 

[MonStar1023]

riskybizz007-
Yeah seriously bro thats the truth.. everything I have ever done is so totally the opposite.

Well see Ill post my results.

 

[riskybizz007]

Please do i'm curious as to see whether this will actually work or not. Even though i'm sure it will from reports of previous users on the diet boards.
good luck

 

[Flash_75]

MonStarr: you should be having 2 post workout meals. you can do 2 shakes or 1 shake and 1 meal(containing 90g of carbs, 36g protein, low fat).......do not eat 2 post workout shakes + dinner w/ carbs. also remeber that this diet in no way changes the laws of thermodynamics-YOU MUST CUT CALORIES TO LOSE WEIGHT .

AM Lifters:
-pre-workout- an apple(or not if your just doing cardio)
-post workout- shake at suggested ratio
-post post workout-meal at suggested ratio
-rest of day-protein and fat

you guys are as neurotic as me.

 

[MonStar1023]

Flash_75-
Actually bro thats exactly what the author is saying to do bro... check it out.
"Meal Food Protein Carbs Fat
Breakfast
~10am
3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs 26 0 12
Protein shake 18 1 0
16oz OJ 0 51 0

Lunch
~noon
1 can Tuna 30 0 0
1 Orange 0 17 0

Pre-Workout
~1:30
16oz OJ 0 51 0

Post-Workout #1
~immeadiately after
Shake 36 90 0

Post-Workout #2
~1-2hrs later
Shake 36 90 0

Dinner
~9:00pm
4oz Ground Sirloin 32 0 17
1oz cheddar 7 0 9
1/2 Potato n/a n/a n/a"

As you can see he's stating to take in 2 Postworkout shakes and then a 1/2 potato later on.. just as I had thought.

 

[MonStar1023]

What's everyone think of this diet?