2 on 4 off cycle and arimidex?

[JohnnyB#12]

newbie cycle, starting small, would the use of arimidex be necisary for this cycle?

day 1 frontload 200mg tren and 50 mgs dbol in 5 divided doses
day 2-11 75 mg tren a day
day 2-14 50 mg dbol a day
then clomid

 

[basskiller]

seems like a waste of gear. What are your thoughts behind this cycle.
Why not just run it for 8 weeks and lay off the "d" at around the fourth or fifth week.

 

[Realgains]

seems like a waste of gear. What are your thoughts behind this cycle.
Why not just run it for 8 weeks and lay off the "d" at around the fourth or fifth week.

Bro I would have to disagree with you on the waste .....these two weeks cycles can be effective if fairly large doses of fast acting roids are used. Front loading is quite important too as is a very large protein intake(300 mg/day), tons of sleep and proper training.

In my opinion a 2 on 4 off cycle is a very good way for a newbie to get an introduction to AAS.

To answer the question about the need for arimidex while on 75 of tren and 50 of d-bol per day......NO you do not need to take arimidex. D-bol with aromatize and tren will not. I would strongly advise that you take 20 of nolvadex per day thoughin order to protect against gyno. Nolva will help a little with the bloat too but the bloat should not be too bad anyway. Nolva aslo acts as an estrogen in the liver and promotes a better cholesterol profile.

A note about estrogen.........some estrogen is needed for the very best gains. It helps promote the release of IGF-1. One needs to be a little conservative when it comes to using estrogen inhibitors like arimidex as they can really screw up one hdl profile. Grant it decent doses of steroids and test do have a negative impact on the cholesterol values of almost all men BUT when an estrogen inhibitor is used things get far worse. I only recommend arimidex if you are using 750 or more per week of test. Some men can get by quite nicely without estrogen inhibitors while using over a gram of test per week.


Also if you want to continue on with a longer cycle after the 14 days then go ahead and do so but drop the d-bol after week 4 and the tren after week 6 and start clomid three days later.........OR........you could start taking test cyp or enanthate at 500 mg per week on day 15 along with tren 50 mg per day while dropping the d-bol after week 3. Drop the test after week 7 and drop the tren after week 9.