2 diff. ?'s.. 1 on 5htp and 1 on 1,4

[decem]

this is my first time ever coming over to this board..

and the first time that i've ever seen anything about "5htp."

so my question on it and this "pre-loading".. is.. what is it and how does it work?


my second question is on 1,4. i have 100ml sitting here beside me. i plan on using it sometimes to sleep.. when i have to get up early the next morning.. and sometimes for a buzz since i don't want the extra cals from alcohol..

if i want a buzz.. just add 2ml to a 16 oz water right? and don't drink alcohol with it.. i know that.. what's the buzz like? alcohol? anything comparable? is it a tired buzz or a fun buzz? is it a "still know what's happening around me" buzz.. or "i'm a drunken idiot just waiting to get beat up" buzz...

ok.. i think that's all the questions i have..

thanks

 

[decem]

um.. anyone there?

 

[bigguns7]

A GBL buzz is a mildly euphoric feeling. To me, it's more of a tired buzz than anything else. You can mix it with diet coke too, that's what I do. 2 ml is good to start but you may need more.

 

[LatinGuns]

The first time I tried 1,4 BD with diet coke, the consensus was 3ml for a buzz and 4 to sleep. All it gave me was tunnel vision and a slight spin feeling but no eurphoria. Took another 1ml about 1.5 hours later, still nothing. Finally decided to fall asleep on my own and woke up the next day with a hung over feeling. This can't be what G is all about!? The second time I tried it for sleep purposes(jacked up on clen), took 4.5ml than went to sleep. Next morning I felt like total crap! This is just my personal experience yours may be different, but I can say I won't be using that stuff again.

I have read 5 htp is a precursor to Serrotonin, so by preloading before popping a pill it suppose to really set off the X... like the first time trippin. Can't personally comment, but plan on doing this for Halloween. For more info check out http://leda.lycaeum.org/Trips/Preloading_with_5-HTP.6573.shtml

 

[decem]

thanks for the info..

i've taken the 1,4 three times so far..

the first time i took 2.5 ml with juice and water.. got a tired/dizzy buzz for about 2-3 hours.. at which point i took another 1.5 ml.. fell asleep and woke up 6 hours later feeling o.k.


next time.. took 3ml at once to sleep.. didn't sleep for shit.. actually didn't sleep at all.. took another 2ml an hour later.. 4 hours before i had to wake up. remember looking at the clock 1 hour before i had to wake up.. still hadn't fallen asleep.. woke up feeling like total shit..

and the same pattern followed for the third time.. felt like total ass when i woke up.. like i never went to sleep..

oh yeah.. i also get heart palpitations an hour after i take it for a good hour or so.

 

[CB38AC]

haha i take 1,4 anywhere from 3-5 days a week to party or to sleep never had any problems just the damn prolactin....its amazing stuff 2ml makes me relaxed 8-10 is a night partying 4.5 to sleep...

 

[XXXL]

i mix mine with only 2-3oz of liquid so it's not so dilute. hits you faster and harder. helped me with the sleeping thing. but you are also subject to nausaia (sp?)

with this stuff you will only sleep for 4-6 hours. if you were getting 6, you are lucky IMO. i get about 4 hours of good sleep and then wake up. feeling great, so no more sleep if i wake in the middle on the night. so if i have to get up the next day i only take it if i wake up that night. or a better way to explain it is if i wake up at 2 am and can't get back to sleep i will take some as long as i don';t have to be up before 6am. if you follow that?

i get a high kind of buzz of it if i take amounts for parying and nto sleeping. being drunk gives me that kind of slow tired buzz. but i guess everbody is different.

just be careful. after a while you can come to need it to sleep. losing the ablity to sleep on your own. but you only have 100mls, so your safe