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1st timer, cutting cycle

Houn Dog

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I'm starting my first cycle next week, i'm 35, i'm wanting to lean up quit abit in about 8 weeks, i've competed quite a few times with a natural association, have my "pro card" for whatever purpose that really serves ha ha, have a few friends that are using and decided i wanted to give some gear a shot, i'm going to use Winny Oral, Eq, and possibly Clen, is this an ok cycle for cutting down ? I'm going to use winny 50 mg ed, and i'm still researching the Eq usage, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated !
 
You need to run EQ for about 14 weeks. EQ will give you nothing in 8 weeks. I'd just run some Test Prop 75mg/ed for 8 weeks and Winny at 50mg/ed for the last 4 weeks. It should benefit you greatly. Clen is harsh. Research that stuff. Start low at 20mcg then ramp it up slowly.
 
Thanx i'm planning on running the EQ for 16 weeks, planning on 8 for the winny to help with bf drop, is there another alternative less harsh than Clen, Albuterol a good alternative or is 2 orals not a good idea ?
 
you could do this

wks 1-16 test enth 500mg
wks 1-14 or 16 eq 400-600mg
wks 10-14 winny 50mg ed

or

wks 1-8 test prop 75-100mg ed
wks 4-8 winny 50mg ed

personally for your first i would just do test. i know you want to cut but you can cut with anytrhing as long as your diet is in check.
 
Back to your first post, the answer is "no, it's not a good FIRST cycle for cutting down". You have so much potential for your first cycle it's not even funny. You can gain an easy 20lbs in 10 weeks if you go on a bulker instead of a cutter, and that's just on 500mg/Test E!

I was recently using Clenbuterol and Albuterol. Clen one week then switched over to Albuterol the next week and so on... I wouldn't use them at the same time because they do essentially the same thing, which is slightly increasing the body's temperature extra calries.

As for the Winny. I think you're lost. Winny doesn't burn fat. Running it for more than 6 weeks is not advised because it's hard on the liver. It makes you look more defined and makes your muscles harder. The only steroid that is a true fat burner is Tren/Finaplix. It increases you metabolism which means you're burning more calories. Causes insomnia, night sweats, and some people almost go crazy when on with the fluctuation of moods and weird dreams and shit. Tren isn't for you yet. You need to research all you can for the next month or 2 before getting on gear IMO.

BTW EQ increases appetite so if you have a hard time controlling the amount of food you eat then I wouldn't suggest it.
 
I guess I relayed the winny info incorrectly i'm using it because my understanding is that it is good during a cutting cycle, i'm 245 now would like to get a bit harder and defined as i drop want to get to about 220, not looking to get much bigger, i don't have a problem with my calorie intake. I have read that everyone says to use a test on your first cycle, am i an idiot for not wanting to take it ? I know the tren isn't for me yet my buddy just got on it but this is his 4th or 5th. Read the side effects of Alb are less then the Clen. My source has clen on hand thats why i was considering it too. Am I wasting my time and money with the Winny and Eq combo ?
 
You'd be much better off with Test. For a cutter I would definitely go with Test Prop injections at the very least EOD, preferably ED. That is if you can handle the frequent injections. Are you ready for them? If you are then opt for the Test Prop 75mg/ed for 8-10weeks and Winny 50mg/day for the last 6 weeks... You should do VERY well with that cycle. BTW If you'd rather go with EOD injections then go with 150mg/EOD.

Good Luck
 
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