1st time on winny

[badfish999]

ok so i think im gonna start a cycle of just winny by itself still continplating if i should take some dbol with it or not. doing it for mma training so not trying to gain to much weight just looking for more strength and hardness to cut down on bf. 1st cycle on aas, just lookin for some advice on the doses for an 8 week cycle. and if i should run the dbol for like 4 weeks and cut that of or just straihgt up run the winny? thanks..


5'11
170
13% bf
training for 3-4 yrs
19 yoa(i know its young and dumb)

 

[DieselGunz]

no dbol


tun test with winny, if u r scared of needels run winny alone, tho your joints might suffer


var would be a better choice imo

 

[DieselGunz]

BTW u r 2 young and u should NOT NOT do it but u r anyways so i will reluctently help

 

[Jon79]

fuck the winny just run the var straight.....you will like it

i am just saying if you are going to do it anyway you only want to run one compound and and a mild one.....so var is the choice

 

[off_safety]

run some deca w/ the winny for your joints. milke thistle(sp?) for your achin' liver. winny is pretty toxic. might want to consider EQ. its great for endurance. my .02

 

[DieselGunz]

eq/winny would be promising

 

[immortalis]

eq/winny would be promising

I ran EQ and Winny along with some test in my current cycle, and actually got my first gyno symptoms ever

Really frustrating too, because I had to jump on some letro to kill it quickly and it really has killed my drive. Oh well

 

[DieselGunz]

I ran EQ and Winny along with some test in my current cycle, and actually got my first gyno symptoms ever

Really frustrating too, because I had to jump on some letro to kill it quickly and it really has killed my drive. Oh well

really, what dosages where u taking?


were u taking a anti E while on cycle?

 

[immortalis]

really, what dosages where u taking?


were u taking a anti E while on cycle?

800EQ/550Test/50 winny.

I was using AIFM at 2 pumps per day.

I jumped on the letro, and shortly after that my 8 week run with winny was over. Not too long after that I noticed that my gyno symptoms has pretty much become non-existant.

What sucks is the letro really killed my drive. My sex drive is virtually non-existant. My motivation to hit the gym has fallen dramatically, and my dedication to my diet has slacked so much its stupid. I dont think I have even had 1 protien shake in the last month. I really need to get my mind right soon and finish this cycle up strong.

 

[bmcadoo44]

yeah, fuck the winny especially since ur a fighter. You dont want sore tendons or joints when you are a fighter.

Go with var 50mg e/d 6 weeks or get some eq or you could go with some tbol

 

[justinjones1963]

I did a winny-only cycle for 7 weeks @ 50mg a day and I loved it. I kept my calories low and my strength went through the roof.

Also you will need to focus on other things other than sticking some AAS in your body:

Drink 1.5-2 gallons of H2O per day
Get a liver protectant: I use Tylers from AFStore https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/
I also use NAC and Milk Thistle. You can get these in bulk ot in caps from any fitness site (I prefer bulknutrition.com for my bulk powders).

Winstrol can also effect your HDL and LDL levels. I recommend
3g EFA's per day (fish oil) I also throw in 3g flax seed oil
Red Yeast Rice 1000-1200mg per day
CoQ12 (which is needed if you use Red Yeast Rice).

Sesapure is also a good supplement to throw in for the liver. AFStore has that too. I haven't usd that yet but many here sing praises.

 

[boston789]

yeah, fuck the winny especially since ur a fighter. You dont want sore tendons or joints when you are a fighter.

Go with var 50mg e/d 6 weeks or get some eq or you could go with some tbol

or you could go with some tbol

Good choice.

 

[goal200]

I got back pumps from tbol, so I vote for var in ure case bro... Or tbol + shitloads of taurine