1st test cycle coming to an end. What's next?

[Slinde88]

My cycle:
Weeks 1-4 dbol 20mg/day
Weeks 1-10 test e 250mg twice a week
Weeks 1-10 aromasin 20mg eod

Results so far have been great. I'm up almost 20 pounds, with strength gains going thru the roof. All my main power lifts have gone up at least 50lbs. I've had minimal side effects, basically just mild acne.


It's gunna be a while before my next cycle but I want to start gathering up info and supplies now. My body fat is relatively high 15% (which is all in my gut) I want to try to bring that down to at least 10%. So I'm most likely gonna do a cutting cycle. YES I KNOW CUTTING IS ALL DIET AND TRAINING but I'd love to have a boost. I don't want to lose any muscle while cutting and maybe even gain some. For gear I was thinkin test e, anavar, and gonna try tren for the first time. What you think? And can you guys help me with a cycle dosage and a pct to fit this cycle

 

[stevesmi]

I cringed when i saw you gained 20 pounds and added 50 pounds to your lifts in such a short amount of time. i understand you may think this is reason to celebrate but in reality your poor joints, tendons and ligaments are under tremendous amount of strain right now.

you should of built a stronger base before running your first cycle. i say this only because i know others will read this and want to copycat your results.

what were your starting stats and stats now?

 

[Slinde88]

I cringed when i saw you gained 20 pounds and added 50 pounds to your lifts in such a short amount of time. i understand you may think this is reason to celebrate but in reality your poor joints, tendons and ligaments are under tremendous amount of strain right now.

you should of built a stronger base before running your first cycle. i say this only because i know others will read this and want to copycat your results.

what were your starting stats and stats now?

I mean from what I've heard those gains were kinda normal right? My starting weight was 205 and now I'm about 224. I've been taking fish oil, milk thistles, and multi vitamins for support supplements. My knees have been acting up once or twice but nothing crazy.

 

[stevesmi]

first cycles usually guys put on a lot of weight and get stronger .. this is for a few reasons but the main one is they are well below their 'genetic potential' when they decide to use steroids.

hell i can take a 150 pound skinny guy and put him on deca/dbol/test for 12 weeks.. tell him to workout everyday and eat at the buffet 4X per day .. not take an AI and he could realistically put on 30 pounds easily of fat, water, and some muscle. problem is once he comes off the water will go away, his motivation when he sees his lifts drop will die. and he would eventually shrink back up to 150 pounds after.

my point is its not what you gain on cycle that matters.. its what you end up keeping and slow/steady gains are easier to keep then fast crazy gains. thats just common sense.

on a cycle like what you ran after last injection its gonna take about 4 weeks for your esters to clear out to low levels.. you want to make sure your pct is lined up and you keep lifting and eating well during this time so you can hold onto a few net pounds of muscle. then after a couple months off you can celebrate the gains you managed to keep and then from there you continue on.

 

[bonacris]

My cycle:
Weeks 1-4 dbol 20mg/day
Weeks 1-10 test e 250mg twice a week
Weeks 1-10 aromasin 20mg eod

Results so far have been great. I'm up almost 20 pounds, with strength gains going thru the roof. All my main power lifts have gone up at least 50lbs. I've had minimal side effects, basically just mild acne.


It's gunna be a while before my next cycle but I want to start gathering up info and supplies now. My body fat is relatively high 15% (which is all in my gut) I want to try to bring that down to at least 10%. So I'm most likely gonna do a cutting cycle. YES I KNOW CUTTING IS ALL DIET AND TRAINING but I'd love to have a boost. I don't want to lose any muscle while cutting and maybe even gain some. For gear I was thinkin test e, anavar, and gonna try tren for the first time. What you think? And can you guys help me with a cycle dosage and a pct to fit this cycle

You say your cycle is coming to an end so you still have to go through PCT which is where your gains will be kept or lost.. especially will dbol and test e.. I would expect you to lose a few of those lbs.. not to be a dick but that's the reality of it

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[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah i wasn't trying to rain on the parade at all either. he should be happy with his gains, but i was just giving him a dose of reality of which 20 pounds per cycle X 5 cycles = 100 pounds of muscle... <<< not possible because we aren't robots lol. anyone who claims they gain 20 pounds every cycle has to have lost everything after each cycle

 

[Slinde88]

I'm aware I'm gonna lose a lot of my weight during and after pct. I will try me best to keep as much on as possible with keeping a stable diet. Now for the cutting cycle

 

[bonacris]

^^^ yeah i wasn't trying to rain on the parade at all either. he should be happy with his gains, but i was just giving him a dose of reality of which 20 pounds per cycle X 5 cycles = 100 pounds of muscle... <<< not possible because we aren't robots lol. anyone who claims they gain 20 pounds every cycle has to have lost everything after each cycle

I don't think a lot of people know just how massive 20lbs of muscle is.. I didn't realise it until I didn't anatomy using human cadavers.. 1lbs of muscle is so unbelievably dense. He should be happy that he made gains and I hope he can keep the majority of them

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[Slinde88]

Bumb for my questions on cutting

 

[doogle]

check mr suppssite they have good shit on it not aas, have a break then plan new cycle

 

[bonacris]

Bumb for my questions on cutting

Firstly get your diet in check and do some cardio.. steroids should only be the icing on the cake and you shouldn't need them to do everything for you.. you can also use any compounds to cut but the diet will determine if you lose fat or not..

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[VanCity.]

Katanadrol stack on mr supps is pretty aaesome.