1st cylce

[austino123]

i am 22 years old, about 6 ft tall and about 200 lbs. i am looking into starting my first cylce and i want some ideas to build mass, but also stay decently cut. i have talked with some people that have tried sus and dbol. they said it was good for mass, i think i want to add masteron to the stack to stay cut. i was thinking, sus 750mgs/wk for 12 wks, masteron 400mgs/wk for 12 wks, and dbol 30mg/ day for the first 4 wks. i have already taken dbol for 3 wks at 25mgs/ day and have noticed some gains, but now i want to step it up.

 

[xrsist]

are you still taking the dbol?

 

[austino123]

no im not taking dbol any more...

 

[xrsist]

just use the sustanon for 10 weeks at 500mg a week mate, eat and train heavy.

 

[austino123]

ive been doing some more research and i think i want to replace the mast with deca 400 mg/wk... on a side note what kind of se has anybody expeirenced with mast or dec?

 

[Nelson Montana]

So you've already taken gear, haven't taken a break and now you feel it's time for your "first" cycle.

Ugh, where do I begin?

First off, I would not recommend Deca, nor would I recommend stacking. Then again, I'm old school. I grew up in a time where guys won major contests on 50 dbol a day. Apparently that isn't enough for someone who wants to look good on the beach by summer.

 

[bverysmart]

first, I would only stick with one type of AAS for first cycle. SO I see you started already on Dbol, stick with that for another 3 weeks, I would only take the sus at 500mg/wk. THATS IT. it is better to take only one because if you have a problem you know what substance it is. When you start stacking with multiple compounds you are asking for problems, especially when your a newbie.

good luck bro


bverysmart

 

[daveyboy2345]

375 mg test week 1-10
dbol 25 mg 1-5

nolvadex 20 mgs day 10-13
letro 1/10 cc or 1/5 cc daily throughout

 

[austino123]

375 mg test week 1-10
dbol 25 mg 1-5

nolvadex 20 mgs day 10-13
letro 1/10 cc or 1/5 cc daily throughout

why such a small amount of test? the least ive seen anybody take on a cycle is 500 mg. i do like the pct you'v suggested, but would there be any difference if i took clomid instead?

 

[dhudson8]

first, I would only stick with one type of AAS for first cycle. SO I see you started already on Dbol, stick with that for another 3 weeks, I would only take the sus at 500mg/wk. THATS IT. it is better to take only one because if you have a problem you know what substance it is. When you start stacking with multiple compounds you are asking for problems, especially when your a newbie.

good luck bro


bverysmart

he's already mentioned that he has taken dbol and he is not taking it anymore. I believe he took dbol for about 3 weeks or so. He had good gains with it and is looking to step it up a notch and gain some more mass. The water retention for him was not a concern at all as he sheds weight very easily which is why he's looking to bulk up on a mass building cycle.
I personally don't think 500mg sust will do as much for you as you want.

I suggest sticking with the dbol as a starter as you already know how you reacted from it previously, but as far as adding anything else its all going to be new. You have to be willing to take a chance with any of it, until you find out how it works for your body.

 

[gabulldogs02]

500mg will be plenty. my 2nd cycle was 500mg of test only and i made great gains. 750mg is too much for your 1st. i'll be on my 4th and havent even ventured over 500mg yet. no reason for you to.

 

[dhudson8]

500mg will be plenty. my 2nd cycle was 500mg of test only and i made great gains. 750mg is too much for your 1st. i'll be on my 4th and havent even ventured over 500mg yet. no reason for you to.

everyone is different. I have taken 500mg on my first cycle and didnt' really notice good gains, However the next 3 cycles were all at 1000mg/wk and this is where I started to notice great gains and looks without sides. so in my opinion it all depends on each person, you can try 500 for few weeks and see what happens then step it up slowly to see where you peak out but you need to know the limits.

 

[gabulldogs02]

if you did 500mg and got nothing youre diet wasnt there and if you did 500mg for the first few weeks of course you arent going to see anything yet. I'm sure there is a ton of people here with a dozen cycles and havent gone over 500mg.

everyone is different. I have taken 500mg on my first cycle and didnt' really notice good gains, However the next 3 cycles were all at 1000mg/wk and this is where I started to notice great gains and looks without sides. so in my opinion it all depends on each person, you can try 500 for few weeks and see what happens then step it up slowly to see where you peak out but you need to know the limits.

 

[dhudson8]

its not that I didnt get results at all, they were just much better results and seemed to me alot more worth it when taking more than 500mg. However I have never taken a single test before just sust so its not even 500mg of one test a wk. I like the results I get at 1000mg wk sust, but thats just me.

 

[gabulldogs02]

Sust, i would understand not gaining as much cause of the short acting compounds in it. I myself have never taken sust.

its not that I didnt get results at all, they were just much better results and seemed to me alot more worth it when taking more than 500mg. However I have never taken a single test before just sust so its not even 500mg of one test a wk. I like the results I get at 1000mg wk sust, but thats just me.