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Hey I'm new to the whole bodybuilding thing, and I'm not sure if this is the right spot for this thread but here goes. Im 17 years old and have been skinny my whole life and want to get bigger. I have read up alot about taking roids and have made up my mind about what i want to take. I have heard for a 1st cycle taking d-bol is a waste of time and I will lose most of my gains(weight and muscle), so I decided to stack a 4-week supply of d-bol with a 4 week supply of winni-v. The only other thing I'm going to take while on cycle is protein and eat healthy and get good rest. I have never worked out before so before I go through with this, I'm going to work out hard for a good month then stack. After my cycle I plan to take an off cycle month and just pump hard and the month following stack halodrol with methandrol, as several of my friends got good results taking it. I;d like as much input as possible, positive or negative I'm all ears. Thanks guys
 
No offense here but you're a total moron to be thinking about taking steroids at your point in life.
If you've never worked out before why the hell would you be thinking about jumping on the r0id wagon?... Would you put jet fuel into a brand new race car and without breaking it in... beat the absolute FUCK out of it? Hell no, cuz it would break.. and be worthless.

What I'm trying to say is that you are whey to new to the game to be thinking about roids.
You need to come up with a solid allocated amount of time where you can go to the gym, pump pump pump and rest and EAT.
Once you get that down, you'll notice gains...
From there, you can go get yourself a nice creatine product and protein powder and start to understand supplementation.
You'll want atleast 3-5 years of SERIOUS weight lifting under your belt before you even THINK about using AAS.

With this said. Go look at other posts on this board. Theres great info that'll get you results you want without AAS. Hope ya don't get toooo flamed for this :)
PEACE
 
honestly bro at 17 years old if you dedicate yourself to lifting and eating right you will see big results in just 6-12 months without taking the steroids. first thing u need to do is educate yourself! do alot of research on this site!
 
You should really look more into supplements if you abslolutely have to add something besides a good diet to your work outs. Their are a lot of good supplements out there that won't effect the high amounts of test your body's already producing.
 
Dude ill buy you some creatine and no explode and a gift card to the grocery store and if you work hard you will be dominator!
 
I hope this was a joke.
There are guys at my gym like this.
All of a sudden they hop on.
The result... they still look like shit but are 10lbs heavier.
Diet is #
*Know what you are eating, how much to eat, why you are eating it and when to eat it
Routine is #2
*Research a proper routine for a new person to the gym. Don't overtrain.
Sleep #3
*You need to be sleeping to grow. Get at least 8 hours.

Your natural test levels are sky high. You can grow better then most now.
Eating to grow is complicated. There are no short cuts.
Taking AAS right now will only stunt your ability to grow and cause problems for you in the future!
 
I think the cycle is perfectly planned, all oral cycles are awesome, hes never lifted a weight so his receptors will be fresh. Hes obviously very advanced for a 17 year old.....I say go for it........also dont waste time with estrogen control and such either bro, dbol is notorious for giving you awesome mantits. dont let anyone tell you different hard pecs are a thing of the past. The new thing is to let your mantits get as big as possible so when they start to itch remember thats a good thing bro not a bad thing. While were taking an all oral cycle shit add in cheque drops bro....a healthy liver is highly overrated anyway so fuk it.
You can tell by my post I think you need to go back to drawing board and forget about steroids for a while.
 
aidenXudfame said:
Hey I'm new to the whole bodybuilding thing, and I'm not sure if this is the right spot for this thread but here goes. Im 17 years old and have been skinny my whole life and want to get bigger. I have read up alot about taking steroids and have made up my mind about what i want to take. I have heard for a 1st cycle taking Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is a waste of time and I will lose most of my gains(weight and muscle), so I decided to stack a 4-week supply of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - with a 4 week supply of winni-v. The only other thing I'm going to take while on cycle is protein and eat healthy and get good rest. I have never worked out before so before I go through with this, I'm going to work out hard for a good month then stack. After my cycle I plan to take an off cycle month and just pump hard and the month following stack halodrol with methandrol, as several of my friends got good results taking it. I;d like as much input as possible, positive or negative I'm all ears. Thanks guys
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no offense but you have no business touching gear at your age,your body is ALREADY flooded with natural testosterone.........and besides you could seal your bones growth plates and stunt your growth,not to mention permanently fucking up your natural testosterone production for life(wouldn't it seriously fucking suck if you had to permanently be on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life due to a really greedy decision for an attempted 'quick fix'?instead of actually putting in the time and dedication that you actually need)

at 17 years old you haven't trained long enough to obtain muscle maturity,most likely don't even have proper training techniques and your diet down either.to achieve optimum results with gear you will need all of those factors and if you don't have your shit together you will most likely be just wasting your time and putting your body at risk.

my recommendation is for you to increase your protein and caloric intake,educate yourself on training techniques,train hard and heavy but with clean form until you reach the age of 22.then educate yourself on proper steroid cycles,and steroid profiles,post cycle therapy,aromatase inhibitor's and serms.......then and only then can you make a wise decision.

best of luck to you:)
 
IM WITH HYP AND SLAT, hyp, its almost like a kick in the face, hes got all this natty test and WE resort to endogenous becuase we cant match his.

GREAT POINT ABOUT UNDERSTAND WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE EATING SLAT.
 
Gods...I've been lifting, training for strength my whole life....and have known about and looked into steriods for YEARS....I'm only "just" becoming fed up enough with my poor genes to try it out.... at 17...I was 5'10, 170lbs...and a black-belt in Karate and Kendo...I went into the Navy...and by the time I was OUT...I was 6'2, 220lbs!!!

DUDE...give yourself a chance to GROW UP...much less GROW. Join the military, TRAIN HARD.... work on doing something that every teen should do..... EAT< EAT< EAT!!!

I think that if you eat and train hard...you could probably even find a mentor in your gym....I can bet that EVERY serious lifter will steer you AWAY from AS. Give yourself, and the wonderful machine the gods gave you (called..>YOUR BODY) a chance naturally.... at least until you are MUCH older!!!!
 
holy ghost said:
IM WITH HYP AND SLAT, hyp, its almost like a kick in the face, hes got all this natty test and WE resort to endogenous becuase we cant match his.

GREAT POINT ABOUT UNDERSTAND WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE EATING SLAT.
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Exactly!! I would give almost anything to be his age (again) and know what I know now about proper training, proper nutrition, etc.. I'd make my natty test flow like hot lava from a volcano, and wouldn't even consider gear!

These are very different times for young weight trainers. Better information, and quality legal supps all around..

Do not even consider it at your age, and not even in your early 20's. You will waste your money and jeopordize your health.
 
I know most of the feedback has been negative, but I'm still going to follow through. I know its not good for my body at this time and but I dont want to wait another 5 years to get big. At my size, steroids is about the only thing that will help my size. I already have a healthy diet and my protein and caloric intake are high. I just want to know the BEST way I can do this, even though there is really no good way at this time. Along with the d-bol I'm taking Winni-V because I read several times if you stack the two, you won't lose as much on an off cycle, and winni-v does a good job of blocking estrogen. During or after my cycle, should I be taking test booster to keep my testosterone up or estrogen blockers or what? Also is there anything to take to keep my liver in shape? I plan to work out 4-5 times a week, taking the steroids during the week and not taking them on weekends and just pumping hard on weekends so my liver has a chance to somewhat get back to normal with a little break. So basically, I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.
 
aidenXudfame said:
I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.
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You're not getting the 'real message' here. It's not about the negative feedback. There is NO best way for you to take them and keep your body as normal as possible.. sheeze!! Christ, you're a kid.. grow up first..

'Haste makes waste'.... Nothing could be a truer statement concerning this.
 
Man i was 17 when i done my first cycle i cant say anything. . . I was 17 135lbs, now im 20 and 200lbs at 5'10
 
Reminds me of the gay kid on MTV True Life: I am on steroids.

The kid didn't know anything about working out yet hopped on and thought he looked different. He didn't.
This whole thread screams I think I know what I am doing when he doesn't.
High protein and a high caloric intake don't mean shit.
I see this all the time at the gym.
Its laughable.
Then again at that age I thought I knew everything too.
Here are the results from this cycle...
Lower test levels for the rest of his life thus smaller size then if he never used steroids.
What a waste.
I am out!
 
jon1320 said:
No offense here but you're a total moron to be thinking about taking steroids at your point in life.
If you've never worked out before why the hell would you be thinking about jumping on the r0id wagon?... Would you put jet fuel into a brand new race car and without breaking it in... beat the absolute FUCK out of it? Hell no, cuz it would break.. and be worthless.

What I'm trying to say is that you are whey to new to the game to be thinking about steroids.
You need to come up with a solid allocated amount of time where you can go to the gym, pump pump pump and rest and EAT.
Once you get that down, you'll notice gains...
From there, you can go get yourself a nice creatine product and protein powder and start to understand supplementation.
You'll want atleast 3-5 years of SERIOUS weight lifting under your belt before you even THINK about using anabolic androgenic steroids.

With this said. Go look at other posts on this board. Theres great info that'll get you results you want without AAS. Hope ya don't get toooo flamed for this :)
PEACE
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While he's showing you tough love I can't go against what he says. Seriously you never lifted weights and your only 17 years old? Why would you try to take a shortcut. Work for it. Make a meal plan and stick with it, same with a training routine. Try to eat 7-8 meals a day, and training 4-5 days a week for a year and you'll see amazing results. You need to learn discipline before you start abusing steroids, cuz thats exactly what you would be doing. To many people think steroids are the answer without taking into consideration their crappy diets or training routines. If you get the first two down, there's no need for you to start steroids until you are in your mid to late 20's I would say. I know many kids that took steroids in high school and were bigger than me in high school and now are a lot smaller and pathetic looking. Without the discipline your really wasting your money.
 
Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man
 
aidenXudfame said:
Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man
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Everyone already gave you advice, if you want to shut down your natural testosterone production thats fine. But being on steroids the rest of your life is going to be very expensive for you. If you came here for advice, and you get really good advice and still decide not to take it. There's no reason to give you any more advice that you obviously aren't going to listen to, I've watched kids like you in the gym since I was 16, I was the small guy then, but with proper diet and training I'm one of the stronger guys in my gym now...........Oh yeah and thats all natural, when I turn 30 I'm going on HRT which will bring my testosterone levels to normal levels, you should really take a look at what veterans are saying and realize that they know a lot more than you.
 
aidenXudfame said:
Exactly I just want to add some size quick so I'm not the smalled guy in the gym and 1 cycle I will straight pump I just need a little boost ya know. And holy ghost the age limit is 13 to join bro. DM2007 what did you take? And did you take any anti estrogen supplements or anything? PM if you want thanks man
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Jesus, man. Read what others are saying. Start steroids now and you'll be fucked later. You don't need steroids at that young age. Your body is making plenty of testosterone. In fact, look at it like this: Your natural testosterone levels are equal to what mine are when I take steroids. Consider yourself already "there."

You don't know what you are doing. Your aren't the biggest idiot in the gym - nobody is saying that. But you are not advanced enough to start taking gear. Remember - steroids are very powerful drugs.

Eat like a horse and develop a better workout routine. You want a pump? Take some Amplify2 before a workout. You'll be a fking animal. Supplement with creatine. Do that and I guarantee that you will gain more lean mass and keep it than you will with steroids. You are sure to lose most of any gains you make on steroids.

Plus, fuck with your hormonal system now, and prepare to deal with problems for the rest of your life.

One last thing: Remember, the people here who are telling you not to do steroids are not a bunch of fucking church ladies - many are very experienced in the field and will be the first to tell you the great benefits of the drugs they take. Listen to them.
 
aidenXudfame said:
I know most of the feedback has been negative, but I'm still going to follow through. I know its not good for my body at this time and but I dont want to wait another 5 years to get big. At my size, steroids is about the only thing that will help my size. I already have a healthy diet and my protein and caloric intake are high. I just want to know the BEST way I can do this, even though there is really no good way at this time. Along with the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - I'm taking Winni-V because I read several times if you stack the two, you won't lose as much on an off cycle, and winni-v does a good job of blocking estrogen. During or after my cycle, should I be taking test booster to keep my testosterone up or estrogen blockers or what? Also is there anything to take to keep my liver in shape? I plan to work out 4-5 times a week, taking the steroids during the week and not taking them on weekends and just pumping hard on weekends so my liver has a chance to somewhat get back to normal with a little break. So basically, I'm going to take them no matter what anyone says, I'm just asking whats the BEST way to take them and is there anything else I should take to keep my body as normal as possible? Thanks guys.
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Whoops. I just read this post. Obviously, you are very determined (and stubborn.) Too bad you are not going to apply those traits in the proper place. You are an idiot and you will fuck yourself up.
 
Kid...you WON'T BE the small guy in the gym if you hook up with the bigger guys, get them to help you with you meal plan...and be just as stubborn about learning the ropes from bigger dudes.... training with them.... Just ask for crissakes....

Steroids won't make you bigger... hard work and eating right will. AS WILL help with mature muscle to grow bigger...that is what EVERYONE is telling you... GO GROW UP!!!
 
dude go natural for at least acouple years. At 17 you could make big gains just by training right and eating even halfway decent. Wait til your at the very least 21 or 22 to even start thinking about gear. And when you do, just start with a low dosage of test
 
Selfcentor said:
Weak
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Naw not weak bro I had just turned 18, I dieted & trained whatever never could get over 160lbs done some test and deca and got up to 185 , currently am 200. . . .
 
DM2007 said:
Naw not weak bro I had just turned 18, I dieted & trained whatever never could get over 160lbs done some test and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and got up to 185 , currently am 200. . . .
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Uhhh... for using roids those gains are pretty weak brah. I, at 20 years old was 6' 1" weighing 165. Now, I am 21 and I'm still 6' 1" and I weigh 205.
During this last year iv'e been educated by the elitest; coming up with meal plans, workout routines, and proper rest cycles.
Iv'e applied everything I learned over the last year to the last 4 months of my life, and never so quickly have I seen gains.
No AAS for me, and iv'e made the same gains as u...
Watch as you platteau and REQUIRE a cycle to break it.
so basically without totally getting you flamed...
There is no justification for anyone under 20 to be fooling around with aas. peroid.
 
lol your not going to magically gain muscle while taking, your going to have to work period, and your going to have to go the gym no matter what, so why not start out natural?
 
Haha ive never heard of someone who has never lifted a dumbbell planning his steroid cycle before even planning his training program its crazy! dude pay your dues lift natural and you will grow, I gained 45pounds natural my first year training, I think you dont realise that this game takes time and effort.
 
ok kid read this i was 16 when i went up to canada to play juniors wasnt totally small but kinda i was 6'1 170 with havin the right food feed to me and liftin crazy and the workouts they had me do by the time i was 17 was only about about 6 months i was 205 that is without steriods i just was had a goal now im 20 6'3 235 so ya give urself time first wait till u see some results and if ur mind is already made up after 6 months to a year then fuck it do it but if u fuck up kid ur gunna hate urself cause ur bodys gunna look funny and ur gunna be pissed soo wait a lil bit and learn
 
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