1st Cycle?

[Chrome87]

I decided to move this post hear to see if I can get anymore help. With the cycle listed listed below, would it be neccessary to include much of a PCT. I' m on a TRT and have been for yrs. I plan on starting right back with TRT after I have completed the cylce. This will be my first cycle. I'm looking to put on some decent and retainable size. I want to run the Nolva the entire cycle to prevent gyno and alot of water retention.

A little history:
I have worked out on and off for years and I enjoyed the gains I received naturally. I, like many others have decided to take my training to another level.
Thanks for any suggestions.

39 yrs old
5 9"
BW 215
BF % 14.5

1-12 500mg/week of Test E
1-12 20mg/ED nolvadex
14-16 40mg/day nolvadex

 

[jagerbombme]

is trt natural? hehe. whats your TRT dose bro? you might not see much water on 500mg ew bro, but if you have the nolva on hand that's good. aifm works really good also. if your going back on trt immedietly after, i don't see a point in a pct, maybe some low doses of hcg to give your balls back size but they are probably shrunk anyhow from the trt so why even fuck with adding the estrogen. looks like a nice cycle dude.

what's your trt dose though outta curiousity?

 

[Mrpumped]

I decided to move this post hear to see if I can get anymore help. With the cycle listed listed below, would it be neccessary to include much of a PCT. I' m on a TRT and have been for yrs. I plan on starting right back with TRT after I have completed the cylce. This will be my first cycle. I'm looking to put on some decent and retainable size. I want to run the Nolva the entire cycle to prevent gyno and alot of water retention.

A little history:
I have worked out on and off for years and I enjoyed the gains I received naturally. I, like many others have decided to take my training to another level.
Thanks for any suggestions.

39 yrs old
5 9"
BW 215
BF % 14.5

1-12 500mg/week of Test E
1-12 20mg/ED nolvadex
14-16 40mg/day nolvadex

Is there a reason why you are doing the nolva with the test? Get some AIFM and use that instead and keep the nolva for the PCT.

 

[Chrome87]

Thanks for the info. My TRT dose is 7.5G of Androgel. I just had the Doc up it at my last visit, I was taking the 5G and my Total test was only at 292 with my last blood test. I'll have to check into the aifm. What do you think about liquid Nolva as opposed to the tabs, or is there even a difference?

 

[jagerbombme]

does the gel work for you? is that only 7.5g per day?
does it help

-libido?
-recovery?
-energy levels?
-quality of life?
-feeling of well being?

just wondering at doses that low? ahhhhhhhh, GRAMS is the key word i guess. not milligrams.

you take 7.5G per day? also those other questions?

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Is there a reason why you are doing the nolva with the test? Get some AIFM and use that instead and keep the nolva for the PCT.

There is nothing wrong with running the Nolva with your Test. That was done for many years and suggested a lot on this board. AIFM is supposed to be pretty great and all, but Nolva has been used in this fashion before and it was very acceptable.

Not knocking anyone/anything, just making sure he has all the info

 

[jagerbombme]

Not knocking anyone/anything, just making sure he has all the info

hehe, pretty sad that you almost feel compelled to make those statements here before bombing and sissy bitching startup. lol bro

 

[DiamondCutCows]

hehe, pretty sad that you almost feel compelled to make those statements here before bombing and sissy bitching startup. lol bro

Is what it is bro. Ulter knows I'm not a dick so it's all good LOL

 

[jagerbombme]

hehe, i know you from somewheres else i think's

 

[Mrpumped]

Is what it is bro. Ulter knows I'm not a dick so it's all good LOL

I know you're not being a dick, but thank you for letting me know that. You just taught me something so K to ya.

 

[jagerbombme]

although i've never seen ulter bombing people and crying like a bitch, it's others i've seen turning it into a internet pissing match and jumping all over people acting like little sissies, im here to learn and discuss and try to get a laugh. people that impede that atmosphere should go play whistle switch and ill be the whistler

 

[Selene]

Good luck with your cycle, please keep updated on your results

 

[Chrome87]

Thanks Selene, I will keep you updated on my progress.

 

[GOLUAN]

thats a good cycle for a first cycle..its solid..should see some decent gains and maintainable gains also...just keep the nolva in the mix just incase. If this is your first cycle..better safe than sorry. Props to you for using a pct and doing it right w/ out going overboard...have fun and keep us posted!