1st Cycle TestE/Dbol 8wks - YES I DID MY HW

[goateater]

Age: 25
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 190 10%BF
Training: 10 years
Diet: Good to go

Proposed Cycle:
Wk 1 – 2 Testosterone Enanthate 1000mg (frontload)
Wk 3 – 8 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg
Wk 1 – 4 Dianabol 30mg
Wk 1 – 10 Nolvadex 10mg

Post Cycle Therapy:
Wk 10 – Nolvadex 50mg / Clomid 150mg / Clenbuterol 20mcg
Wk 11 – Nolvadex 40mg / Clomid 100mg / Clenbuterol 20mcg
Wk 12 – Nolvadex 30mg

Additional Supplements:
Cycle Support – 2 Scoops ED
Multi-vitamin – 2 tablets ED

How does all of this look? Suggestions appreciated...

 

[mikematt06]

i would suggest extending the test enanthate to 10 weeks. Other than that everything looks great

 

[goateater]

i would suggest extending the test enanthate to 10 weeks. Other than that everything looks great

First cycle I like the idea of keeping my time ON to a minimum... next cycle I plan on extending to 12 weeks. Just tryin to get the feel of things...

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

You'll probably end up bumping your clen up. 20mcg doesn't really do much after a day because you build up such a tolerance to it anyhow. Most people ramp up 20mcgs/day and ramp back down. Personally I wouldn't go over 120mcg your first time. Be sure to supplement some taurine!

I also run my Clomid for 3 weeks. I've had great results from it. I'd suggest the same to you if you have enough on hand (which you should! I always plan for 2 PCTs)

Looks good, Eat and get big bro!

 

[chordz]

That is alot of test. I would stick to 50mg of clomid. Nice cycle though.

 

[chordz]

I just went plat.

 

[solidspine]

That looks fantastic,


You apparently did your homework, good job.


Using D-bol, you definitely don’t need to front, load Test – E


It is going to be a shock to the system as it is,


Curious what kind of D-bol are you using


One other personal note, I would run the Clomid a full 3 weeks,

Maybe 50mg ED week for week 12, you want to bring everything back to normal
As soon as possible.

 

[bverysmart]

Hey bro

why are you front loading for your first 2 weeks. You are better off running a longer cycle 10wks instead of 8. Your dbol will give you a good kick start. I do not see a huge benefit from frontloading test.

Besides that everything looks good.

Also, I see that you are running Nolva all the way through. Some people like it others don't. IMO you only need to use if you show signs of gyno and at end for PCT. Clomid looks good, but I also would run for 3 weeks. I normally run 100mg for the 1st 2 weeks and then cut back to 50mg/ED for the last.

Good luck bro

 

[X Man]

Age: 25
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 190 10%BF
Training: 10 years
Diet: Good to go

Proposed Cycle:
Wk 1 – 2 Testosterone Enanthate 1000mg (frontload)
Wk 3 – 8 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg
Wk 1 – 4 Dianabol 30mg
Wk 1 – 10 Nolvadex 10mg

Post Cycle Therapy:
Wk 10 – Nolvadex 50mg / Clomid 150mg / Clenbuterol 20mcg
Wk 11 – Nolvadex 40mg / Clomid 100mg / Clenbuterol 20mcg
Wk 12 – Nolvadex 30mg

Additional Supplements:
Cycle Support – 2 Scoops ED
Multi-vitamin – 2 tablets ED

How does all of this look? Suggestions appreciated...

seems ike you are very well planned out... idk how much that clen is going to do for ya in the two weeks, i certainly would only help with protein synthesis, but it takes me at least two 2 week cycles of clen to realy notice the vascualrity

 

[git_er_done]

no reason to load up on test e bro

 

[rg78]

First cycle I like the idea of keeping my time ON to a minimum... next cycle I plan on extending to 12 weeks. Just tryin to get the feel of things...

Loading a 1000mg a week of test isnt what i would call getting a feel for it.
Other than that its a similar cycle to what im on now as long as your diets good you'll do well

 

[goateater]

Well I kinda would like to keep my cycle at 8 weeks, and I figured frontloading the test would get my test levels up 2 weeks sooner, thus making my 8 week cycle comparable to a 10 week cycle without frontloading.

Any comments on this?

 

[goateater]

Curious what kind of D-bol are you using

I am using Denkall Dbol, yes I know it aint the best.

I am also using Aburaihan, Iran Test Enanthate 250mg.

 

[goateater]

Well I kinda would like to keep my cycle at 8 weeks, and I figured frontloading the test would get my test levels up 2 weeks sooner, thus making my 8 week cycle comparable to a 10 week cycle without frontloading.

Any comments on this?

Bump on this!

 

[gettnlarge01]

If you want an 8wk cycle you may want to run prop instead of enth.

 

[SwolK]

Well I kinda would like to keep my cycle at 8 weeks, and I figured frontloading the test would get my test levels up 2 weeks sooner, thus making my 8 week cycle comparable to a 10 week cycle without frontloading.

Any comments on this?

no need to frontload. you have the dbol

run the test E at 500mg for 10 weeks. you will be happier then 8 weeks with a front load. also, run the clomid as other suggusted.

you May want an AI also, like adex, aifm or aromasin. then you should not have to run the nolv throughout the cycle

 

[goateater]

****REVISED CYCLE****


Proposed Cycle:
Wk 1 – 8 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg
Wk 1 – 4 Dianabol 30mg
Wk 1 – 10 Nolvadex 10mg

Post Cycle Therapy:
Wk 10 – Nolvadex 50mg / Clomid 150mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 11 – Nolvadex 40mg / Clomid 100mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 12 – Nolvadex 30mg / Clomid 50mg

Notes:
-Extended Clomid therapy to 3 weeks rather than 2
-Increased Clenuterol dose
-Dropped frontloading idea, but left cycle length at 8 weeks (yes I know it should be longer but this is what im comfortable with)

Thanks for the help everyone! Cycle starts September 11th!

 

[gettnlarge01]

Lots of luck with the cycle!!!

 

[pursuit]

PCT wise thats alot of serms.

You would be better doing less and but for longer:
Post Cycle Therapy 2:
Wk 10 – Nolvadex 40mg / Clomid 150mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 11 – Nolvadex 20mg / Clomid 100mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 12 – Nolvadex 20mg / Clomid 50mg
Wk 13 - Nolvadex 20mg/ Clomid 50mg

 

[damnitmannn727]

Personally, this is how I would run mine.
Proposed Cycle:
Wk 1 – 8 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg
Wk 1 – 4 Dianabol 30mg
Wk 1 – 10 Adex 1mg/eod(Keep estrogen levels down and keep bloat off)

Post Cycle Therapy: Taper down
Wk 10 – Nolvadex 40mg / Clomid 100mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 11 – Nolvadex 30mg / Clomid 75mg / Clenbuterol 40mcg
Wk 12 – Nolvadex 20mg / Clomid 50mg
Wk 13 - Nolvadex 10mg / Clomid 25mg / .25mg Adex

 

[20ss02]

I'm not sure what your reluctance is to extend the cycle to 10 weeks. The sides effects of front loading 1 gram of test for the first 2 weeks will be far greater than a consistent dose of 500mg for 10 weeks. You would minimize the side effects and maximize gains by maintaining consistent levels and giving that particular test ester adequate time to work.

If you're completely against changing the duration, I would suggest a change to test prop.

In either case (prop or enanthate) the dbol will give you a good jump start on the cycle.

 

[digit0x]

Frontloading the test will NOT increase test levels faster. Test E is a slow acting compound. Whether you take 1000 or 500 mg's, both will kick in about the same time. However, at that time you're test levels will be higher, but like another bro said, a longer sustained level of test is better than spiking it. If you want a quick reaction to test from your body, you need another compound (i.e. prop, etc). The finer points could be argued (like 10-12 weeks test) but for the most part your cycle looks good, but frontloading the E isnt necessary. Also, reconsider test alone first. can't stress it enough man, with everything else in check, you will see phenomenal gains with test alone. good luck