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1st Cycle, Test E & Winny

10001110101

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23 y/o
5'7" 185 lbs, 12% BF.

Lifting off and on for 6 years. Seriously dedicated for 6 mos.
Planning on doing the following (or some variation of) cycle in 3 months.

Wks 1-8 testosterone enanthate 500mg EW
Wks 8-12 Win 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.25mg ED throughout
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - Clomid 40mg wk1 20mg wk2-3

I would start PCT immediately after the end of cycle.

I've been researching for about 6 months now, and the general consensus is "test is best" especially for your first cycle. My goal is to gain about 10-15 lbs LBM, while cutting fat to approx 6-8%. Is this too much to expect from any cycle even if diet and training are spot on? I was hoping the winstrol would quickly drop the water weight from the test while hardening/vascularizing the muscle built from it. I would run a caloric deficit for the last 3-4 weeks.

My real questions are is this a safe first cycle? Are my dosages good? How should I schedule the Win part of the cycle, should I have any overlap? Should I run the test throughout but cut dosage? Any help/comments/flames will be appreciated.
 
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1-10 test e maybe start at 300mg wk and see how it treats u, then maybe bump it up to no higher than 400 after a few weeks. should overlap at the end 6-10 winny. also there is no real way to build mass and lose fat on a cycle, u need to get a specific goal for a first ever cycle. at least that is what i have heard. also what is your age?
 
hstern said:
1-10 testosterone enanthate maybe start at 300mg wk and see how it treats u, then maybe bump it up to no higher than 400 after a few weeks. should overlap at the end 6-10 Winstrol - stanozolol. also there is no real way to build mass and lose fat on a cycle, u need to get a specific goal for a first ever cycle. at least that is what i have heard. also what is your age?


23 y/o

Yeah I was thinking I could do a "hybrid" cycle, first part would focus on building some mass, then the last part to "hold" that mass while I drop fat/water.
 
1-10 test E 500mgs ew(or test prop 125mgs eod for lest bloat for cutting)
7-10 winny 50mgs ed(split in 2 doses 9 hours apart unless injecting)
Arimadex .25ed sounds good

You will want to do your winny while on test bro!
 
iceman7230 said:
1-10 testosterone enanthate 500mgs ew(or test testosterone propionate 125mgs eod for lest bloat for cutting)
7-10 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mgs ed(split in 2 doses 9 hours apart unless injecting)
Arimadex .25ed sounds good

You will want to do your Winstrol - stanozolol while on test bro!



Will the test help prevent the joint issues from Win?
 
10001110101 said:
Will the test help prevent the joint issues from Win?

No, I always use a low dose of at least 200mgs of deca ew for that problem. You can try that or try glucosomine/condrodant which doesn't work that well for me although I still take it. Deca works wonders for joint issues, I love it!
 
10001110101 said:
Will the test help prevent the joint issues from Win?

No, I always use a low dose of at least 200mgs of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ew for that problem. You can try that or try glucosomine/condrodant which doesn't work that well for me although I still take it. Deca works wonders for joint issues, I love it!
 
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