1st Cycle Questions

[wellard]

Guys,

Sometime ago I asked for advice on a 1st Oral Only Cycle.

My goals were to do a single “Test” cycle to bulk up with the intention of then coming of the juice and hopefully keeping my gains.

The feedback was uniform with the majority of people saying a Dianabol and Winny cycle was best.

I have done a lot of research about the two individual drugs and their pro's and con's and have found out a lot of info, however I can’t seem to find out anything about the two drugs when taken together and the pros and cons of combining these two.

Before I start my 1st cycle can anybody tell me why this combination is good?

I’m also, as any new user very worried about the side effects, especially gyno. So during my cycle I aim to take 10mg of Nov as a precaution, is this correct thing to do or am I being too paranoid?

I am also taking Milk Thistle as a Liver protector and Vit B for Acne.

So here’s my 1st cycle

Week 1 – 20mg D-Bol (4 x 5mg) & 25mg Winny ED (1/2 of Yellow British Dragon 50mg)
Week 2 – 30mg D-Bol (6 x 5mg) & 25mg Winny ED
Week 3 – 40mg D-Bol (8 x 5mg) & 25mg Winny ED
Week 4 – 30mg D-Bol (6 x 5mg) & 50mg Winny ED
Week 5 – 20mg D-Bol (4 x 5mg) & 50mg Winny ED
Week 6 – 100 mg Clomid ED
Week 7 – 50 mg Clomid ED
Week 6 – 50 mg Clomid ED

As I occasionally suffer from a few spots on my face I have Oxytetracycline an antibiotic on standby. Are there any problems with taking this and the roids?

Also I have to attend a party half way through the cycle and would like to have a few drinks (max 5 – 6) I know that D-Bol and Winny are harsh on the Liver, should I refrain from taking the steroids a few days before and after consuming alcohol?

Any advice would be great!!

 

[Tigrones]

I would not take dbol and winny together, why don't you take dbol only for 3-4 weeks, than winny only for another 3-4 weeks.
You say you want to bulk up, than dbol/winny is not a perfect combo. Are you afraid of needles?
Few drinks won't kill you, but I'd stick to water myself.

 

[pin cuishon]

uhhhh,...maybe wanna slow down yer dbol bro, this is your first cycle, and i dont know if u need that winny everyday. just up the dosage, and spread it ou to like every other day. also, you cant stop yer cycle to drink once. you gotta go all the way through. even if you did stop, you have the shit already in you, it take a while to get out. just know, at least for me, the few times i drink when on a cycle, i get drunk easier and stay drunk longer, i guess my liver is a little pre-occupied with other shit

 

[wellard]

Guys,

Thanks,

So what do you rec as a 1st cycle dose of D-Bol, 35 mg a day?

 

[Dirty Workout]

What are your stats? Unless you are a huge guy I think 35mgs is too high to start off with. Start off with like 20mg and see how you react. I just finished 1st cycle and gained 15 lbs off 15-20mg/day (along with sust). Also definately agree with pin cushion forego the alcohol if you HAVE to do a orals only cycle (which is not recommended). Remember needles are your liver's friends! First shot is bad but after that not so much!

 

[Tigrones]

I would not go over 30mg dbol daily, since you have 5mg tabs, spread as evenly as possible throughout 24hr period

 

[chanmanfoo]

run the dbol at 25 mg for 4/5 weeks, save the winny. but you should really run some cyp or enan at 250/400 mg for 8 weeks. injections are safer and a lot easier than first timers usually think. and if you plan on running more cycles in the future you will need to learn how sooner or later.
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[Only1eagle]

Trust me!! I had a problem with the needls my first cycle. Was given 22g needles.

My buddie had to give me the first shot! (not always fun sticking your ass in someones face)

After that I did the rest myself.

However I have since gone to 25g needles and boy I tell you its like pinching yourself and thats it.

 

[wellard]

Guys,

Thanks for all of your advice. It isnt that I dont want to inject. I only wanted to do 1 cycle to bulk up a bit and then go back to steriod free training. Oral seemed the quickest root to take, due to getting hold of the stuff etc.

I will stick to 15 mg d-bol for the first week, and then go to 20 mg for weeks 2-4 and then review.

What do you guys think?

I assume I will still have to run Clomid after.

 

[wellard]

Guys, while running 20mg - 30 mg D-bol ED, will I need to run liver protectants and Nov?

 

[pin cuishon]

Guys,

Thanks for all of your advice. It isnt that I dont want to inject. I only wanted to do 1 cycle to bulk up a bit and then go back to steriod free training. Oral seemed the quickest root to take, due to getting hold of the stuff etc.

I will stick to 15 mg d-bol for the first week, and then go to 20 mg for weeks 2-4 and then review.

What do you guys think?

I assume I will still have to run Clomid after.

didnt i already tell you this is impossible,...you will not take just one cycle. once you feel and see the results you will be hooked.steroids,...the most addictive drug in the world