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1st cycle opinions

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Week 1-5 Test E @ 600mg/week
Dbol @ 40mg/day
Week 5-8. Test E @ 500mg/week
Sus350 @ 350mg/week
Week 9-14 Test 400 @ 800mg/week
Week 15-16 Test E @ 600mg/week
Adex on hand for sides/excess water
(pinning twice a week)
Week 18-22 Nolva 40/40/20/20, dpol 0413 730 8183tabs ED, creatine also
Any criticism or ideas would be greatly taken into consideration, thanks
 
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Week 1-5 Test E @ 600mg/week
Dbol @ 40mg/day
Week 5-8. Test E @ 500mg/week
Sus350 @ 350mg/week
Week 9-14 Test 400 @ 800mg/week
Week 15-16 Test E @ 600mg/week
Adex on hand for sides/excess water
(pinning twice a week)
Week 18-22 Nolva 40/40/20/20, dpol 0413 730 8183tabs ED, creatine also
Any criticism or ideas would be greatly taken into consideration, thanks

Fuck no.

Just no.



And what are your stats?

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Why all of a sudden people are just saying retarded shit? It's been happening too often for them to actually be this stupid ? Stop trolling and if your serious go do some research and not listen to your buddy's at the gym
 
Way too many compounds, why so many changes is test?
More compounds does not mean more results. Keep it simple, ul hav good gains and recovery should be a breeze.

1-4 dbol 40mg/Ed
1-12 test E 500mg/ew, 250mg mon/thurs.
Aromasin 5mg e3d.

Pct
Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5
D aspartic acid
Hcgenerate

You could up the test abit too 750 ew if u really wanted but 500 IMO is plenty unless ur a seasoned AAS veteran.
 
29/5'11/107kgs not 100% sure on bf but I'm not a fat bastard, been training 5+ years, clean diet for a while now. Was originally just going to do test e 500 pw for 12 n the dbol, but came across some cheap 350 n 400, so yeah any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
 
Just choose one and stick with it bro. Either E, sus, or the 400.
Or a first cycle I'd just choose the E, only need too pin twice a week. The sus ul hav too do e2d to get the best results as its made of prop more than anything else. So ud be pinning mon/wed/fri/sun.
Honestly bro keep it simple. 500 test e with 4 weeks of dbol lyk I layed out. Ul be amazed at the results u get if u run that, train hard and eat right!
 
Goals pretty much strength n leaner muscle mass for my high contact sport, the test 400 I have is 200 e 200 c, so I thought could use it aswell, as the compounds are very similar, the sus was guna be to keep the strength going a bit longer (prob a stupid comment, but i am new to this) after dbol was gone, but I'm thinking the E should be doing well by then, yeah ? Thanks again for your time, I see a lot of new people get rejected, but you have to start somewhere right
 
Absolutely bro. You still need to read up a good bit first, but your first run should be test only.

The 400 should do fine on its own, and you can pin it for 10 weeks with the vial you have

take a 2 week break after your last pin before pct

For pct run this for 4 weeks:

DAA
Unleashed/Post Cycle combo
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma Stanozol
 
Yeah iv been looking at sites and forums for a while, and they have all pretty much said the same as you guys, I was kinda just hoping that I could use everything I had and it may be ok, where I'm from it's not the easiest to get alot of stuff and it's quite heavy on the pocket, the post cycle/unleashed and the creams always seem to be sold out (but i will keep trying) and I'm not quite sure if there ok to come into Australia , is it possible to swap the clomid for nolva in the pct you recommended ?
 
Nolva is garbage bro, it has no use in a PCT. All it does is make you feel like shit and kills estrogen.
 
I'm from aus too bro. Havnt had any problems gettin liquid clomid from chemneeds through customs. Cost ya about $50 and one bottle will do u for a couple of cycles. Also get aromasin through them and I get that through no worries too.
Just because I hav all the gear doesn't mean u hav too run it man, just run one compound this cycle and save the other gear for your future cycles..
 
Aus guy too no probs with chem need stuff even had customs look at it n left a letter that they assessed my items n still got it. Get what u need n spend the money to do it properly.

"obsessed is what the lazy call the motivated"
 
id stick to the 1 test and forget that orginal plan it makes no sense at all, id go with a simple test E cycle 12 weeks and get everything prepared. You have test 400 so id just go with what you and like BB said its enough for 10 weeks so run that, youll need an Ai on cycle and some testicular support alongside it to enable a nicer recovery and experiance. run it like this bro
1-10 test 400
2-10 aromasin 12.5mg eod
4-10 hcgenerate
PCT.
12-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
12-15 unleashed/postcycle
12-15 forma stanzol
12-15 Daa powder
 
@ maccy, yeah I had a look at that site, what is the go with the 'not for human consumption' label, and you get it delivered to your own address ? Yeah I'm keeping it simple now and saving the others for a later date if I'm not happy with results from 1st cycle. Was a very silly idea at the time now I look back on it. Thanks again for your help guys :)
 
Just for legal reasons bro. It's good stuff, don't let that scare you away from it. Yeh just get it delivered to your address its fine. All your AI's and serms will get through fine but don't try buying clen. They'll seize that!
 
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