1st cycle Kneed help

[swindell7591]

Ok i was thinking about taking A testE/equipose or primo cycle.
tell me what you think i shoulud change, i want to accomplish big quality gains that wont be hard to keep most off with the right pct.

mnth1 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week
mnth2 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week
start hcg for two weeks whil using
mnth3 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week

start clomid pct 2 weeks after last inject of Test E

what do you guys think about this cycle for getting big and keeping most of the gains should i take anavar to or instead of equipose or primo and wich between primo and equi do you think works better
thanx for your guys help

 

[tatman3177]

first of all what r ur stats? youll get responses with this info. next is this ur first cycle, sounds like it. if so stick w/test only first go round. this way you can see how your body will react to the gear. and exactly how long is ur cycle? go by wks not mnths. 8-10-12-14 wks.

 

[swindell7591]

first of all what r ur stats? youll get responses with this info. next is this ur first cycle, sounds like it. if so stick w/test only first go round. this way you can see how your body will react to the gear. and exactly how long is ur cycle? go by wks not mnths. 8-10-12-14 wks.

6,3 195lbs i know that my body acted good to dianobol so if i already did that what do you suggest>? just curious man what would be a better stack equi or primo depot ?

 

[Bruce]

eq enth is a great stack, primo is just not worth it if you aren't gonna run 600 and still i think eq a better choice, you'll get more bang for your buck, and the gains are quality

 

[flex2win]

If you've already used Dbol, then this obviously isn't your FIRST cycle..

 

[crfpilot14]

most will recommend a test only "first cycle." which is sound advice for the reasons stated above and on MANY threads already. but your test/eq is a nice first cycle. do something like this...

test enanthate 500mg/wk wk1-10
EQ 400mg/wk wk1-10
adex 0.5mg ed wk1-12

PCT: starting 10days after last injection....
HCG 1000IU MWF plus nolva 20mg ed for 3wks, then stop the HCG and continue the nolva for another 2wks at 20mg ed.

you can shoot 1cc of test plus 1cc of EQ in the same syringe every Mon & Thurs (rotating AM/PM dosing to keep the levels from fluctuating so much). you can run the HCG midcycle if you like but you wont need to. also, some will say that the adex isnt needed, but i would run an AI with every cycle that has an aromatizable drug. you may want to run this cycle for 12wks as the EQ will just be kicking in at 8wks.

 

[nutsnack]

Ok i was thinking about taking A testE/equipose or primo cycle.
tell me what you think i shoulud change, i want to accomplish big quality gains that wont be hard to keep most off with the right pct.

mnth1 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week
mnth2 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week
start hcg for two weeks whil using
mnth3 Test E 500mgweek/equipos or primodepo 300mg week

start clomid pct 2 weeks after last inject of Test E

what do you guys think about this cycle for getting big and keeping most of the gains should i take anavar to or instead of equipose or primo and wich between primo and equi do you think works better
thanx for your guys help

IMO if you are trying to get big gains do test e only front loading or jumpstarting with dbol (sine you've already been on it and know you don't have the sides) week 1-3 dbol 30mg

 

[swindell7591]

well the dbol just gave me water retention, also i was told that with primo you will get bigger than with equipose, and youll keep alittle more than with equipose like 95% of it rather than equi 87% or something like than primo is suposed to make you harder and stack better with test than equip Right>?

 

[crfpilot14]

i would not use primo simply b/c you need quite a bit of it and it is not cheap....and there are a lot of fakes out there as well. you can add 30mg of dbol ed to the above cycle i posted. you may need to up the adex to 1mg ed during the 4 wks on dbol...

 

[nutsnack]

well the dbol just gave me water retention, also i was told that with primo you will get bigger than with equipose, and youll keep alittle more than with equipose like 95% of it rather than equi 87% or something like than primo is suposed to make you harder and stack better with test than equip Right>?

primo is a waste for you especially if you are straight bulking why use primo? for your size you dont need it.. use test and dbol and play it safe seeing this is ure first injectable cycle... nolva on hand as well!

 

[monkey arms]

Who comes up with the % of gains kept? LOL. It is not from the gear my brother but more from your diet,training, PCT and knowing your body.

If it is your first cycle Test E at 500/wk is perfect.

Test E and EQ are a great stack, though I'd run the EQ at 600, but that is me.
good gains and a nice mix of Anabolic and Ardrogenic compounds.

But like I've said time and time again......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, WHAT WORKS FOR SOME WILL NOT NECESSARILY WORK FOR OTHERS. THIS IS A TRY AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND MOVE ON.

 

[Bruce]

Who comes up with the % of gains kept? LOL. It is not from the gear my brother but more from your diet,training, PCT and knowing your body.

If it is your first cycle Test E at 500/wk is perfect.

Test E and EQ are a great stack, though I'd run the EQ at 600, but that is me.
good gains and a nice mix of Anabolic and Ardrogenic compounds.

But like I've said time and time again......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, WHAT WORKS FOR SOME WILL NOT NECESSARILY WORK FOR OTHERS. THIS IS A TRY AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND MOVE ON.

test e and eq, spoken like a pro. 600 of eq a week no doubt, great cycle for shredded muscle. low sides

 

[swindell7591]

so you think if i did 500week of EQ and 500week of Test E/ i still would kneed nolva on hand right? also you say i can mix the two steroids together in the sam syirnge now what if all of it doesnt fit, should i jsut put it in a different leg or the other ass cheek or just inject again in the same spot?

 

[swindell7591]

what about 500week of eq and 500 week of test theramex? what do you guys think of theramex ?

 

[galawman]

I think that you will find that their are bros on this site that will help you and give you advise,as much as you need but you are asking the same question over and over,stop,read and try and understand what you are asking.Go with the test and eq,from what I gathered you will just have to see what your body does while on your cycle.you could also add dbol week1-4 at 30mg every day,nolva if you need it but you need arimidex or femara as a ai,you do not need to use more than 3cc in a shot,if it will not fit go to twice week,use different sites each week,good luck

 

[slat1]

Who comes up with the % of gains kept? LOL. It is not from the gear my brother but more from your diet,training, PCT and knowing your body.

If it is your first cycle Test E at 500/wk is perfect.

Test E and EQ are a great stack, though I'd run the EQ at 600, but that is me.
good gains and a nice mix of Anabolic and Ardrogenic compounds.

But like I've said time and time again......EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, WHAT WORKS FOR SOME WILL NOT NECESSARILY WORK FOR OTHERS. THIS IS A TRY AND SEE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND MOVE ON.

Exellent post.. not unusual it seems because I must spread the karma around.
I am using similar cycle:
test ent 500mgs ew wk 1-10
eq 400mgs ew wk 1-10
*Note I am starting clomid 17 -21 days after the last shot of eq.. not two weeks after the last shot of test ent. The eq stays in your system longer... therefor you must plan you pct around that.
I would highly suggest hcg on this too!

 

[crfpilot14]

slat, you bridging that cycle with prop or something? i would recommend that you start your PCT at 7-10days out if not. i know that it takes almost 3wks for EQ levels to drop, and the test will be mostly gone by then as well....but you dont want your levels to fall off that low before starting your PCT.

 

[swindell7591]

what you gtuys think of this cycle

wk 1-10 test E500mg wk/Eq500mgwk
2 weeks after last shot eq start clomid therapy for 3 weeks 50 mg aday.
6,3 195 ilbs my goal is 225 hard look also. EQ should accomplish this with test
do you think i should throw some anavar in there or dbol, or hcg ? input please what should i chang second AS cycle.

 

[galawman]

swin,easy bro,you are trying to find a short cut to nothing but one thing is going to give you and thats just plain ole time on the iron,pumping,pumping,getiing sore,to get cut add more cardio,You I think are going about it all wrong,No drug in this world is just going to pack the muscle on and in 12 weeks you look like Titus Or Coleman,So ask more questions about what exercises you should do and not worry about so much which AAS are the short cut.Peace be with you brother,Hard work thats what will do it,I can promise you that all the FREAKS will tell you that is the only way to do it,combo,eat,train,rest,train than for a edge you may start off slow,I am never mind,good luck

 

[crfpilot14]

what you gtuys think of this cycle

wk 1-10 test E500mg wk/Eq500mgwk
2 weeks after last shot eq start clomid therapy for 3 weeks 50 mg aday.
6,3 195 ilbs my goal is 225 hard look also. EQ should accomplish this with test
do you think i should throw some anavar in there or dbol, or hcg ? input please what should i chang second AS cycle.

scroll up and read my post again. everything you need is there. adding both to the same syringe will only be 2cc twice a week. you can shoot 2cc in the same spot no problem. you can use the dbol if you want. 20-30mg ed wk1-4. spread the dose throughout the day.

 

[crfpilot14]

swin,easy bro,you are trying to find a short cut to nothing but one thing is going to give you and thats just plain ole time on the iron,pumping,pumping,getiing sore,to get cut add more cardio,You I think are going about it all wrong,No drug in this world is just going to pack the muscle on and in 12 weeks you look like Titus Or Coleman,So ask more questions about what exercises you should do and not worry about so much which AAS are the short cut.Peace be with you brother,Hard work thats what will do it,I can promise you that all the FREAKS will tell you that is the only way to do it,combo,eat,train,rest,train than for a edge you may start off slow,I am never mind,good luck

excellent advice, but rarely heeded. the way i figure it is that people are gonna do what they want regardless of what you tell them....at least if they are gonna do AAS, at least do them safely and correctly.