1st cycle Deca only? Deca/ test e / clomid?

[dutch82]

I have never done a cycle and think that its time. My buddy has 5ml of deca QV 300. I was thinking about running the deca only at 300 mg a week for 5 weeks. (keep in mind its my first cycle).
After doing some research Im now leaning towards finding more of it somewhere and doing 400 mg of deca for 8 weeks along with test e every 5 days for the 8 weeks, followed by 50mg of clomid for 2 weeks after.

If I did the deca only at 250-300mg for 5-6 weeks, would I need the test or the cloimd?

All I can get for now is the 5ml that my buddy has left.
I am new to this

waiting responses. feel free to im or email. Thanks!

 

[needtogetaas]

I have never done a cycle and think that its time. My buddy has 5ml of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - QV 300. I was thinking about running the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only at 300 mg a week for 5 weeks. (keep in mind its my first cycle).
After doing some research Im now leaning towards finding more of it somewhere and doing 400 mg of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for 8 weeks along with testosterone enanthate every 5 days for the 8 weeks, followed by 50mg of clomid for 2 weeks after.

If I did the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only at 250-300mg for 5-6 weeks, would I need the test or the cloimd?

All I can get for now is the 5ml that my buddy has left.
I am new to this

waiting responses. feel free to im or email. Thanks!

well you cam to the right place bro. You have a lot to learn. First off being as you are so new to the site. Making any attempt at trying to find a source or let people know you are looking for one will only get you scamed out of your money.

Second if this is your first time forget the deca. Send it back to who ever gave it to you or save it for way down the rode. Test only 250-500mg every week for 10 weeks thats a first cycle.
You need to know a lot more before you do that cycle bro. We need to know more about you before we give you advice as well.

 

[dutch82]

Thanks for the response bro. I hear ya. Id perfer to just do the deca only cycle but have a fiance and want to keep my hardons.
So test only at 500 a week for tem weeks would be better than the deca and test together?

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks for the response bro. I hear ya. Id perfer to just do the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only cycle but have a fiance and want to keep my hardons.
So test only at 500 a week for tem weeks would be better than the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and test together?

Hmm for a new guy its funny how you know about deca dick.

 

[dutch82]

Hmm for a new guy its funny how you know about Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - dick.[/QUOTE

Ive been doing a lot of research. some say they never experienced it others say not to do the deca w/o the test or your dick won't get hard period. Id rather not chance it.

 

[jumpmaster82]

your first cycle I think you could manage a test deca cycle. Run the test at 500mg and deca at 300 for 10 weeks.

 

[rambleon]

welcome bro
save the deca for later as needto says. The key to a successfull first cycle is sticking to one compound IMO. That way u'll know exactly what's causing any problems that may arise and take corrective action fast. Go with the test only. Deca only is a bad idea. A good first cycle could look like this:

1-8 test e 250 mg ew (split into 2 shots)
9 hcg 500 iu's ed
10-12 nolva 20 mg ed + sustain

Keep an AI handy. I'd suggest adex but only use it if the need arises.

Good luck man.

 

[nydj66]

First, as a long ester dec-A is not suited to a 5-weeks cycle. 10-12 weeks is typical for Dec-A.

Second, as a progestin, Dec-A has to be treated with special care to avoid side effects like ED, loss of libido, progesterone gyno, and a prolonged recovery post-cycle. The ancilaries required to handle Dec-A sides can be more expensive than the gear itself. It's much easier to stick with test for your first cycle so all you have to worry about is estrogen.

When you use longer esters like Dec-A or test enanthate, you can inject less frequently but you also have to push your cycle length to 10 weeks and then H-C-G is highly recommended. It can get very expensive between the gear, the ancillaries, and the amount of food you need to consume to grow.

It's obvious that you want to see what anabolics are like. I'll also assume that you are not a seasoned body-builder and that you're not willing to spend a grand or more on your first cycle. Here's what I recommend that will be effective, inexpensive, and pose the least risk:

wk 1-6: 100mg EOD test propionate
wk 2-7: 50mg/day stanozolol
wk 8-11: 50mg/day clomid

That cycle could be put together for under $500, has enough gear to get great results for a first timer, shouldn't require an anti-estrogen, and is short enough to allow easy recovery without the use of H-C-G.

For this cycle you would need 2 10ml bottles of test propionate at 100mg/ml, 2,000mg of stanazolol (both of these quantities will leave you 2 days short of a full 6 weeks but no big deal) and 1 bottle of liquiClom from ag-guys.com.

A bottle of LiquiDex would also be a good insurance policy in case you get gyno while on. It can be incorporated into you P-C-T as well.

Apart from that your results will depend on diet and training. Good luck!

 

[dutch82]

First, as a long ester dec-A is not suited to a 5-weeks cycle. 10-12 weeks is typical for Dec-A.

Second, as a progestin, Dec-A has to be treated with special care to avoid side effects like ED, loss of libido, progesterone gynecomastia, and a prolonged recovery post-cycle. The ancilaries required to handle Dec-A sides can be more expensive than the gear itself. It's much easier to stick with test for your first cycle so all you have to worry about is estrogen.

When you use longer esters like Dec-A or test enanthate, you can inject less frequently but you also have to push your cycle length to 10 weeks and then H-C-G is highly recommended. It can get very expensive between the gear, the ancillaries, and the amount of food you need to consume to grow.

It's obvious that you want to see what anabolics are like. I'll also assume that you are not a seasoned body-builder and that you're not willing to spend a grand or more on your first cycle. Here's what I recommend that will be effective, inexpensive, and pose the least risk:

wk 1-6: 100mg EOD test propionate
wk 2-7: 50mg/day stanozolol
wk 8-11: 50mg/day clomid

That cycle could be put together for under $500, has enough gear to get great results for a first timer, shouldn't require an anti-estrogen, and is short enough to allow easy recovery without the use of H-C-G.

For this cycle you would need 2 10ml bottles of test propionate at 100mg/ml, 2,000mg of stanazolol (both of these quantities will leave you 2 days short of a full 6 weeks but no big deal) and 1 bottle of liquiClom from ag-guys.com.

A bottle of LiquiDex would also be a good insurance policy in case you get gynecomastia while on. It can be incorporated into you P-C-T as well.

Apart from that your results will depend on diet and training. Good luck!

Thanks for the advice. Would it be possible to do a test e cycle only for the first time? what would I need to use following the cycle?

 

[nydj66]

Thanks for the advice. Would it be possible to do a testosterone enanthate cycle only for the first time? what would I need to use following the cycle?

wk 1-10: 250mg test enanthate twice weekly
wk 1-11: 0.5mg LiquiDex (arimidex) EOD
wk 2-11: 500IU H-C-G twice weekly
wk 12-15: 50mg/day clomid

This requires:

2 10ml bottles test-e at 250mg/ml
10,000IU H-C-G
1 bottle LiquiDex
1 bottle LiquiClom

 

[bsdgeek]

your first cycle I think you could manage a test Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - cycle. Run the test at 500mg and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - at 300 for 10 weeks.

yep, but run the test two weeks longer. like this:

wk 1 - 12 test 500 mg/wk
wk 1 - 10 deca 300 mg/wk


this is my current cycle, just pinned tonight, starting week 3. no deca dick- plenty of hard ass wood over here bro! i would fuck most anything right now also- i'm hittin the dbol - 30 mg ED. wk 1 - 5

 

[newcycler]

I am 30 yo, 200 lb, 6'3: how much test to deca should i do? Should i also do clomid at the end?