1st Cycle advice please (yet another)

[cyrex]

Hey guys. I think this is probably one of the most common thread titles or derivitives anyways, but I can't think of a way around it so here it goes:

I'm 24 years old. 6'4" 250 lbs around 14%bf
I'll going to start my first cycle soon and would like some advice on if I should add anything in and advice on PCT so I can get everything ordered before I start.

Cycle:
250mg Test 2x week for 1-10

Novaldex on hand JIC

PCT:
40mg Novaldex ED 11-13
20mg Nova ED 14

 

[Mr.X]

Hey guys. I think this is probably one of the most common thread titles or derivitives anyways, but I can't think of a way around it so here it goes:

I'm 24 years old. 6'4" 250 lbs around 14%bf
I'll going to start my first cycle soon and would like some advice on if I should add anything in and advice on PCT so I can get everything ordered before I start.

Cycle:
250mg Test 2x week for 8 weeks
100mg Decabolan 2x week for 8 weeks

Novaldex on hand JIC

PCT:
20mg Novaldex ED for 3 weeks? 2 weeks after last injection

The test dosage is good, 500mgs/wk, the Deca 200mgs? too low. I would go with 500mgs of Test + 400mgs of Deca. Use arimidex .5 - 1mg ED. Also, duration should be at least 10 weeks.

PCT you need more then 20mgs of nolva ED

 

[BOWTECH]

I would bump up the deca also. You definately are on the right track when it comes to having everything on hand before you start. (more people need to think like this)..... PCT is more important than your actual cycle. Good luck

 

[tzan]

Agreed!! A nice first cycle:
wks 1-10 500mg test/400mg deca

Your pct is VERY important. For me, deca absolutely kills me after my cycle. Go over to the pct board. There are some good pct protocals over there. I personally would run some hcg/clomid for pct.

 

[cyrex]

Thanks. I had 200mg/decabolan and then forgot to put the 2x/week so when I added that I was dumb and divided by 2 (again).
I meant 200mg/decabolan 2x week

Is the arimadex ED necessary?

and how about 12 week cycle (i was trying to even it out so I don't have a TON left over in the vials but I guess having the right numbers is more important than spending extra on another vial.

can someone give me some suggestions on PCT?

 

[cyrex]

Oh yeah... I coulda swore there was a sticky somewhere about this, but what size syringes should I get? I did a search for the post, but didn't find the one I was thinking of. Someone posted a great post about syringe use. Where to inject, how to inject, what types of needles for what, etc, but I couldn't find it.
Can someone point in me in the right direction?

 

[tzan]

Oh yeah... I coulda swore there was a sticky somewhere about this, but what size syringes should I get? I did a search for the post, but didn't find the one I was thinking of. Someone posted a great post about syringe use. Where to inject, how to inject, what types of needles for what, etc, but I couldn't find it.
Can someone point in me in the right direction?

I use 22 1.5 needles to shoot and 18 to draw. Go to www.siteinjections.com

 

[Throw2Far]

You are new to the game so i'll give an example of proper first cycle/pct for your goals.

Test E 500mg week 1-10
HCG 1000 mcg E3D Week 9,10 (just one way to do it)
Nolvadex 40mg ED Week 11-13, 20mg ED week 14

BTW Do Test E twice a week at 250 mg each time.

 

[Throw2Far]

Also, you can run Deca but I wouldn't on a first cycle. 500mg Test is more than enough and the Deca might shut you down harder than the gains you'd make from it... Just my 2 cents... could do either but I'd stick with the test only...

 

[cyrex]

k. I modified the original post to what i'm planning on doing now. It sounds pretty basic and easy enough. BTW, I didn't mention my training history or diet. I happen to have one of those bodies that just happens to gain muscle very easily if I try. I've been reading this forum for quite a while and have been soaking up as much knowledge as possible. Based on everyone's recommendations and advice, I should probably wait a year or two before trying a cycle, but I think I'm at a point where some gear will help me gain more than I could on my own in a certain amount of time and I've happened upon a sure source where I can get them which I may not have available in a few years, so I've decided to take the plunge. I think of it almost like having sex for the first time for a 17 year old. He should probably wait a year or so, but if he's educated enough about it, knows the risks, has decided he is gonna do it for certain, why not take the plunge?

So with all that in mind, assuming that I know what I'm getting into, understand the risks, understand the proper way to do it, and understand that I could still get decent gains from some good old fashioned hardwork, but want it faster and am willing to pay for that, is there any other reason why I should not procede?

 

[cyrex]

One more question

I'm getting a physical and some blood work done before I start anything. Is there anything specific tests I should ask for other than what they do standard when you ask for blood work?

 

[shoestring]

I would get a testicular profile type panel done bofore your cycle so you will have a baseline to compare to down the road. This is what I did.

Testicular Function Profile II - Tests For Testicular Function

Description-This set of tests include Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH); luteinizing hormone (LH); testosterone, total and free. The Testicular Function Profile is a set of tests designed to check the proper functioning of the testes. Results that are out of range can help identify reasons for infertility or low male hormone levels.

here is a link
http://www.lab-safe.com/lab-tests/test/251/